Keep your line or you will be put down.
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Keep your line or you will be put down.
So very fail.
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09-17-08, 10:24 AM
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It's all your fault.
Ride with Freds, suffer the Fredsequences. Take two of these and call me in the morning.
I'm starting to run low, I'll have to go to Road Nazi Warehouse and buy more.
Ride with Freds, suffer the Fredsequences. Take two of these and call me in the morning.
I'm starting to run low, I'll have to go to Road Nazi Warehouse and buy more.
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Do you have t-shirts w. this boffo art, Pcad?
I'll take two large, short-sleeves, w. autographs on the right sleeve.
I'll take two large, short-sleeves, w. autographs on the right sleeve.
09-17-08, 10:42 AM
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I did the Atlanta MS-150 this weekend and had a great time other then the encounter with Mr. Fred Fredenberger. The first day was going to be 101 miles long and I had some obstacles to overcome before I could get my groove on. The mess start consists of the teams that are leading the fundraising going off first then the next team in line and so forth. My team was towards the back so when we went off I had to do my best to get up to the front (Cox team) where my buds were so I could hammer the hundy out with them in tow. The problem was that this ride is chock full of folks that do not normally ride in packs or don't ride normal for that matter... I stuck to the left in order to pass safely and even used the bell that I was forced to buy for the 24 hour solo race I did the weekend prior (5th place/solo). I made it up to the front in due time without killing anybody and did my thing with 4-5 riders in tow. I like to do these charity rides for many reason but dealing with riders that have no clue how to ride safe is very frustrating to say the very least. I tried my best to inform others that they need to keep to the right unless they are overtaking another rider or they can and will be hit by a car or worse hit by me.
After about 75 miles into the ride we started to pass the folks that are only doing the 60 mile option and that was when the trouble started. Most of these riders were not doing so well in the heat. I saw a bunch of folks on the side of the road in a cramping frenzy and every time a SAG van went by me it was chock full of displaced riders in pain. As I was making my way up a climb I noticed a solo guy riding on the left, I was just about to reach for my bottle when all of a sudden this Fred weaves from his double yellow line spot on the left right into my left hand/fist that was resting on my bars... I kept my line but he went down, over the bars. As it turns out this guy was seen by others to be weaving around like a drunk driver and he picked the wrong guy to weave into. I tried my best not to laugh at this poor fellow and helped him up as well as dust him off but when I told him he was OK, he told me to... and I quote "kiss my ass!"
Considering this was a charity ride I let it go but was slightly in shock that this knucklehead thought it was my fault that he weaved into me. I hold my line very well and my poor thumb was sore from rigging that freaking bell every time I came up to a rider that was hugging the double yellow. I've been affected by MS on a personal level so leave out the "This is why I don't do charity rides" line. Normally I'm off the front so the Fredish riders don't effect me for the most part but when the routes merged together this is what happens. I looked around at the dinner venue for the guy to give him a piece of my mind but found it best not to make matters worse, I'm sure he was sore enough the next day without more of a reaming from me.
-Scott
After about 75 miles into the ride we started to pass the folks that are only doing the 60 mile option and that was when the trouble started. Most of these riders were not doing so well in the heat. I saw a bunch of folks on the side of the road in a cramping frenzy and every time a SAG van went by me it was chock full of displaced riders in pain. As I was making my way up a climb I noticed a solo guy riding on the left, I was just about to reach for my bottle when all of a sudden this Fred weaves from his double yellow line spot on the left right into my left hand/fist that was resting on my bars... I kept my line but he went down, over the bars. As it turns out this guy was seen by others to be weaving around like a drunk driver and he picked the wrong guy to weave into. I tried my best not to laugh at this poor fellow and helped him up as well as dust him off but when I told him he was OK, he told me to... and I quote "kiss my ass!"
Considering this was a charity ride I let it go but was slightly in shock that this knucklehead thought it was my fault that he weaved into me. I hold my line very well and my poor thumb was sore from rigging that freaking bell every time I came up to a rider that was hugging the double yellow. I've been affected by MS on a personal level so leave out the "This is why I don't do charity rides" line. Normally I'm off the front so the Fredish riders don't effect me for the most part but when the routes merged together this is what happens. I looked around at the dinner venue for the guy to give him a piece of my mind but found it best not to make matters worse, I'm sure he was sore enough the next day without more of a reaming from me.
-Scott
09-17-08, 10:47 AM
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You went on a charity ride and you were shocked to find that not everyone was following the rules for closely packed peloton racing? You were passing someone on the right, without warning from what you've said, and you're surprised he came right into you?
You mentioned teams, are these racing teams or fundraising teams? You mentioned starting with your team in the back and then working you're way to the front to ride with buds who apparently aren't on your team, were you planning a breakaway? Setting tempo to wear out the other teams? Would your original team members be bringing you waterbottles from the directeur sportive's team car?
I'll just reiterate the rules of the road as they pertain to cars, bikes, airplanes, and ships at sea: the overtaking vessel is responsible for safely passing the overtaken vessel. In this you failed both by not signaling your intentions and by passing on the wrong side. But your fundamental problem was mistaking a charity ride for a road race.
You mentioned teams, are these racing teams or fundraising teams? You mentioned starting with your team in the back and then working you're way to the front to ride with buds who apparently aren't on your team, were you planning a breakaway? Setting tempo to wear out the other teams? Would your original team members be bringing you waterbottles from the directeur sportive's team car?
I'll just reiterate the rules of the road as they pertain to cars, bikes, airplanes, and ships at sea: the overtaking vessel is responsible for safely passing the overtaken vessel. In this you failed both by not signaling your intentions and by passing on the wrong side. But your fundamental problem was mistaking a charity ride for a road race.
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Why you would ride fast at a charity ride is beyond me, but the man you hit could have been suffering from heat exhaustion, which depresses motor skills (weaving) and increases irritability (yelling at you). Next time, keep the speed for your A-group ride, and slow down on the charity stuff. It's only a hundred miles, take the time and enjoy the scenery.
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09-17-08, 10:53 AM
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F the scenery. F the Freds.
Charity Ride Carnage RULES.
Charity Ride Carnage RULES.
09-17-08, 10:56 AM
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Just pointing out the obvious.
09-17-08, 10:59 AM
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Didn't a guy (Mouhamed) that was observing Ramadan (didn't eat/drink from sun up to sun down) place 2nd in that same Faster Mustache 24 Hour Solo race?
https://racetracker.fastermustache.org/race/FM.24.08/
https://racetracker.fastermustache.org/race/FM.24.08/
09-17-08, 11:01 AM
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I did a charity ride last month and the carnage was disturbing. Makes me think I might not do any more of them.
It's like riding on a mup, or bike path. You have to be hyper-aware of everyone because you never know what any of them might do. I don't care how much of a bad-ass you think you are, if some idiot takes you down on a descent, it's gonna hurt.
It's like riding on a mup, or bike path. You have to be hyper-aware of everyone because you never know what any of them might do. I don't care how much of a bad-ass you think you are, if some idiot takes you down on a descent, it's gonna hurt.
09-17-08, 11:03 AM
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I haven't done a charity ride in over a decade. And the one I used to do was 75 miles each way. The cyclists were so spread out there were never any Fred issues. The Freds were dropped very early and they never got in the way. We also didn't ride like morons, which helped.
09-17-08, 11:03 AM
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Yeah I must add to the general consensus here, that racing that competitively at a charity ride is pretty pathetic. Go find a crit or a TT for your team to ride in, otherwise, just seems poseur-ish.
09-17-08, 11:05 AM
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I did the fun ride before the Tour de Town crit long time ago. I was passing a guy on the left on a rain-soaked downhill turn (he was going so slow it was unavoidable) when all of a sudden decides he needed to be 8 feet over. He ran me into oncoming traffic which I narrowly avoided. I was pretty pissed and scared by it but that's what you get in those rides. That's why I don't do fun rides anymore unless they are metric centuries at least. Freds do those less often.
I've done the Georgia MS 150 ride. It can be a fun ride but it's supposed to be a FUN ride...for everyone, not just serious riders. You can't enter a ride like that, one that is more or less created to be ridden by Freds, then be upset that people actually ride like Freds. You already know what you're gonna get when you line up at the start so act accordingly.
I've done the Georgia MS 150 ride. It can be a fun ride but it's supposed to be a FUN ride...for everyone, not just serious riders. You can't enter a ride like that, one that is more or less created to be ridden by Freds, then be upset that people actually ride like Freds. You already know what you're gonna get when you line up at the start so act accordingly.
09-17-08, 11:07 AM
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09-17-08, 11:08 AM
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A couple years ago I was riding with three friends when we crossed the path of a MS 150 ride. About a mile up the road I saw someone behind us working hard to catch on our wheels. Once he caught up I asked him where he was going and he said "Cedar Point" ( the rides destination). I told him that we were not on that ride, were going a different direction and that he made a wrong turn behind us. I think he was bonking or something because he suddenly did a U turn right in front of me and took us both down. He was worse off than me, as he got cut up pretty good on his knee, hip and shoulder. My only injury was a twisted ankle that got worse as we rode on until it stiffened up and I had to call the wife for sag support (only the 2nd time ever). I felt bad for the guy. He was doing something to raise money and challenge himself and it didn't go very well.
09-17-08, 11:19 AM
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One of my co workers 'races' charity rides. He doesn't really know about the racing scene but he probably trains harder than anyone I know and is fast as hell. He's 'won' a bunch of these, and actually could probably hang in Cat 1/2 if he knew anything about the scene.
He's a bit older now, in his 50's but he's claimed to have 'won' the Redlands Classic charity ride in 95/96, which is a pretty competitive event.
He's a bit older now, in his 50's but he's claimed to have 'won' the Redlands Classic charity ride in 95/96, which is a pretty competitive event.
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Why you would ride fast at a charity ride is beyond me, but the man you hit could have been suffering from heat exhaustion, which depresses motor skills (weaving) and increases irritability (yelling at you). Next time, keep the speed for your A-group ride, and slow down on the charity stuff. It's only a hundred miles, take the time and enjoy the scenery.
The first riders into the rest stops get first pick on cookies and treats? If I'm riding for fun I'm also eating for fun.
09-17-08, 11:28 AM
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It's a freakin charity ride. aka Fred parade. If you were really as good as you let on, that Fred wouldn't even get a chance to touch you. Sorry, I hate people who treat charity rides as if it were the world championships.