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Cyclist Dies After Hitting Rear of Car

Old 09-19-08, 11:00 PM
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Cyclist Dies After Hitting Rear of Car

Damn...I hate these threads.

http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/app...032/1981/WDH05

A little unnerving considering he died in the same spot I have ridden past numerous times. This one hit close to home...I still don't know his name; very possible that I had ridden with him on group rides.

Prayers and condolences to the members of both families.
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Old 09-19-08, 11:08 PM
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What's with cyclists running into parked cars lately? Are these drivers stretching the truth a little bit about how long they had been stopped?

Sucks you have to go by that place all the time. My commute goes by Harvey Hetland's ghost bike which is placed near where a car passed him on the wrong side, causing him to lose control at about 40 mph and die in the crash.
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Old 09-19-08, 11:32 PM
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Cycling is a surprisingly dangerous activity.
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Old 09-20-08, 12:36 AM
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Was there any witnesses to corroborate the story? Seems kind of odd thing for an experienced cyclist to do...
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I've rear ended a car before. I was drafting up until the red light. Apparently car brakes are better than bicycle brakes, but the driver laughed.... I laughed, all was good. It was my beater bike anyways.

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Old 09-20-08, 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by the_drain View Post
Was there any witnesses to corroborate the story? Seems kind of odd thing for an experienced cyclist to do...
As tragic as this is, when you rear-end another vehicle it's your fault. Assured clear distance applies to bicycles too.
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Old 09-20-08, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bikelyst View Post
Damn...I hate these threads.
Then don't post them. duh.

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As tragic as this is, when you rear-end another vehicle it's your fault. Assured clear distance applies to bicycles too.
I nearly hit a car that was parked illegally in the bike lane right as a bike path emptied onto a street. There was almost nowhere else to go.

As for driving, the front of my car made contact with the back of another car and it was most certainly not my fault. It was in a parking lot and the car in front of me backed up into me while I was stationary.
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Originally Posted by umd View Post
I nearly hit a car that was parked illegally in the bike lane right as a bike path emptied onto a street. There was almost nowhere else to go.

As for driving, the front of my car made contact with the back of another car and it was most certainly not my fault. It was in a parking lot and the car in front of me backed up into me while I was stationary.
Jaa, there are always exceptions....... Assured clear distance is what I mentioned, remember?

As for you almost hitting the car in the bike lane, pay attention to where you are riding, just as you would do if you were driving.
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Originally Posted by Ziemas View Post
As tragic as this is, when you rear-end another vehicle it's your fault. Assured clear distance applies to bicycles too.
odd indeed. and very sad.

i keep trying to envision the tragedy as it's described in the article. i can't help but think there's more to the story.
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I was riding side by side with a guy right behind a car about 30 years ago in our little town. We were going 20+ past an Ice Cream shop. We were both looking at a girl in line at the little shop. The light turned red and the car stopped, I looked up before I hit, but my buddy did not. He ended up on the hood of the car and I bouced of the back window. No helmet but I dont think eithere one of us was hurt. Scared the guy in the car real bad but certainly not his fault. just like driving a car, we have to really pay attention. Not always easy to do.
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Originally Posted by Ziemas View Post
As for you almost hitting the car in the bike lane, pay attention to where you are riding, just as you would do if you were driving.
In that case I saw the car but as it was a very narrow path that empied onto the street there wasn't anywhere to go. There was an obstruction on one side and the car on the other and I was going to the gap between them and I didn't see a third, hidden obstruction on the path that nearly put me into the car.
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Originally Posted by atomship47 View Post
odd indeed. and very sad.

i keep trying to envision the tragedy as it's described in the article. i can't help but think there's more to the story.
What do people think might have "actually" happened?
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Originally Posted by umd View Post
In that case I saw the car but as it was a very narrow path that empied onto the street there wasn't anywhere to go. There was an obstruction on one side and the car on the other and I was going to the gap between them and I didn't see a third, hidden obstruction on the path that nearly put me into the car.
In that case I guess one would have to stop, just as they would in a car.
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Yeah, how do we know this cyclist wasn't stopped, balanaced on his bike, and the lady then backed into him at high speed?

I agree it's sad, but there's not much to be said about it. Probably sort of a freak thing that he died from it, but appears to have been completely preventable, too.
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Originally Posted by Ziemas View Post
As tragic as this is, when you rear-end another vehicle it's your fault. Assured clear distance applies to bicycles too.
Not if the cager intentionally slams on his brakes.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,3133098.story
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Originally Posted by Nachoman View Post
Not if the cager intentionally slams on his brakes.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,3133098.story
And I'm sure that's what always happens. Cyclists are always are in the right, aren't they?
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Originally Posted by Richard_Rides View Post
Cycling is a surprisingly dangerous activity.
It is the 2nd most dangerous. 1st is fishing. (I heard this from radio long time ago).
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And I'm sure that's what always happens. Cyclists are always are in the right, aren't they?
Cyclists are always right.
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Originally Posted by Nachoman View Post
Cyclists are always right.
How are your comments germane to the discussion at hand? Do you think horrible accident was a road road rage incident, or do you just feel the need to point out totally obscure incidents?
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Originally Posted by Ziemas View Post
And I'm sure that's what always happens. Cyclists are always are in the right, aren't they?
The same exact thing happened to a group ride in Australia a couple of months back. There were two prospective track Olympians who went down when some idiot pulled in front of them, slammed on the brakes, causing several of them to hit his car and many more to go down in the resulting pileup.

Someone has tried to do this to me, too, but luckily they were in an old SUV with worn out brakes.
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent View Post
The same exact thing happened to a group ride in Australia a couple of months back. There were two prospective track Olympians who went down when some idiot pulled in front of them, slammed on the brakes, causing several of them to hit his car and many more to go down in the resulting pileup.

Someone has tried to do this to me, too, but luckily they were in an old SUV with worn out brakes.
Do you also think this is what happened in this case?

In any event, while either driving or cycling, it's your responsibility to make sure that there is enough distance between you and the vehicle in front of you to safely stop in an emergency; it's driving 101.
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How are your comments germane to the discussion at hand? Do you think horrible accident was a road road rage incident, or do you just feel the need to point out totally obscure incidents?
Grumpy needs a hug.
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Originally Posted by Nachoman View Post
Grumpy needs a hug.
Really, what's your point? Are you just here to snipe or do you wish to add something constructive to the conversation?
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Really, what's your point? Are you just here to snipe or do you wish to add something constructive to the conversation?
That's grumpy's job.
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Originally Posted by Nachoman View Post
That's grumpy's job.
What's up with the nastiness and trolling?

EDIT: Never mind, I looked at your profile and sig.

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