Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Oy, 17% is rough!

Old 09-22-08, 05:09 PM
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But at the end of every friggin ride my little Fred moron. You'd keel right over.
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Every ride I take from the house ends with a bizarro-world steep 100 yards +/- DIRT road. Usually the steepest grade on any ride. I admit to occassionally walking up it telling myself that its cross-training.
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Originally Posted by SKYLAB View Post
Every ride I take from the house ends with a bizarro-world steep 100 yards +/- DIRT road. Usually the steepest grade on any ride. I admit to occassionally walking up it telling myself that its cross-training.
I'd keel right over.
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google seems to have the answer...

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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
This is me on the 17% grade section that's right before my driveway. It's only about 70 meters long, but it is preceded farther down the hill by a 15% section that's more like 150 meters long, and it's all part of a mile long climb with an average grade of about 7%. Every. Friggin. Ride.

So yes, you should HTFU. Or get a compact. Either way.
Yes, that is you alright, struggling up that short incline. 17 and 15 are marbles. Try a 2/5ths (644 meters) of a mile stretch of 20%, followed immediately by another 100 foot blast of 15% that's right before my driveway. Every. Friggin. Ride. Almost always in the 3rd lowest gear (34x23).

So yes, you should retire the shorts.
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Originally Posted by Harun View Post
google seems to have the answer...

That's
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Originally Posted by Brandy View Post
There's totally crying in cycling. I cried my first time up to the Baldy Ski Lifts. I cried yesterday after EC too.
Brandy chided me ...I mean

Maybe I'm missing something. I've yet to reach any part of me inside that wants to shed tears on a ride. Maybe on a fast descent without glasses. Haha. Last time I had to bail and walk (thanks Las Flores), I was stunned more than anything. My body reacted as though I was in shock when I tried to remount and continue even after a good rest. There was NOTHING. No juice, no interest, no answer, no Jesus. Just me walking my bike. I felt like a combination of and , but not
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Ok, I need to try this 17% stuff. Any known 17% in the Rochester NY area?
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Originally Posted by KiddSisko View Post
. Almost always in the 3rd lowest gear (34x23)
What's your bail-out gear you unfathomable fairy? 34 x 28? Does that hill of yours hurt your little girly legs? Should we start a BF Collection to build you a friggin chairlift?
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Originally Posted by weavers View Post
how funny, i live in the same area, cupertino and i ride 53/39 with a 12/25 in the back. i can get up mt. eden just fine. i might have to stop cause my heart is beating so hard i can't breath, but i see no reason to walk. i mean i'm an amateur. then again i'm 22, a dance teacher and in good shape.

but i know i can't get up Montebello Rd with 39/25. where is the 17% grade? i really need to spend the money on a compact crank, and someday a wider cassete, i'd just hate to lose the cadence on an 8 speed. someday i'll go up Mt Hamilton.
I'm a really old guy and I have no problem with a 39/21 on a 13% climb. If people can't do a 17% grade, they should train more and lose weight. 17% is difficult but if that's your route, do something about it
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Originally Posted by StanSeven View Post
I'm a really old guy and I have no problem with a 39/21 on a 13% climb. If people can't do a 17% grade, they should train more and lose weight. 17% is difficult but if that's your route, do something about it
Define 'really old'.
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Originally Posted by StanSeven View Post
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That's not so old. I race with guys who are older than you. They beat me sometimes too. That really feeds into my Self Loathing. Hey, you're only as old as you feel. I'm 50, but some days I feel like I'm 70. You know how that goes. Fortunately, most days I don't feel much different than I did @ 25. Better, actually.

F it. Keep hammering Stan.
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Originally Posted by Tulex View Post
Ok, I need to try this 17% stuff. Any known 17% in the Rochester NY area?
17% hurts. I don't think it matters how much you "HTFU", it's gonna hurt. And I don't think it ever gets easier. We have several 17-20% kickers around here that I'll tack onto the end of a short ride (kind of my penance for doing a shorter ride). The main difference between now and a few years ago is that now I don't have to stop to breathe halfway up. It doesn't hurt any less.

Pcad? I get to choose whether I punish myself or not. You apparently don't have that choice unless you move to another house. So has that wall gotten any easier?

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Originally Posted by RoadToNowhere View Post
So has that wall gotten any easier?
I figure I've ridden that hill well over 1,000 times. I'm really quite used to it by now, I know every foot of it, I take it in stride and yes, on some days, when I'm feeling good, it's not hard (although it's never actually 'easy'). When I occasionally hit it with a bike racing friend I invariably drop them, even if they're better climbers. Which only underscores how crucial it is to know a climb to ride it well. Otherwise it can really psych you out.
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My house is at the end of an 800 foot climb that includes c. 100 m of 20%. There is another way to get there that involves a much more gradual climb, but adds about 8 miles to the route. Every now and then, I wuss out and do the 8. Kind of stupid, but sometimes that last climb just seems too much.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
how crucial it is to know a climb to ride it well. Otherwise it can really psych you out.
Especially the really steep leg burners. Knowing how much rope to let out and how much to hang onto helps.

Long, steady climbs I don't really want to know what's up. I'd rather just get in my head and go.

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If people can't do a 17% grade, they should train more and lose weight. 17% is difficult but if that's your route, do something about it
I never said I was in the best of shape, I said I was coming back to riding this year after a 5 year hiatus and this is my *first* road bike. Like I said, 22t granny rings make any climb seem like child's play.

As for losing weight, I'm already pretty lean at ~155lbs, I'm not inclined to go much further. I'm not trying to be a super-svelte cyclist.

I do plan on riding the route over and over until I don't have to stop on the climb.
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17% is not that bad. Take a short rest before attempting it and you will do fine. Remember to count to 5 over and over again as you go up. Before you know it you are finished.
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Here is a pretty picture of a 'getting to know you' ride I did of a climb in my area, short but very very sweet, it's part of a century sportive about 80 miles in. You cannot believe how much knowing a climb well makes a difference to your ability to get up it...



Here is a picture of the pub you go past (It's 25% at this point, it's agony seeing the people drinking beer whilst you're beasting yourself...)


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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
What's your bail-out gear you unfathomable fairy? 34 x 28? Does that hill of yours hurt your little girly legs? Should we start a BF Collection to build you a friggin chairlift?
Bail-out is 30. And I need it. Just like Contador needed his 34x28 during the Tour of Italy.
LOL chairlift. Yes, please. That would be nice.
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Here is a picture of the pub you go past (It's 25% at this point, it's agony seeing the people drinking beer whilst you'r beasting yourself...)

That has to be more than 25%. Fargo Street in Los Angeles is 33% and that pub street looks even worse!
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Used to do Mt Eden also when living in Cupertino. Had similar gearing also....and was a newbie rider. In fact, it was the route I took on my very first ride. Had to walk a section the first time. After that I swore to not walk again on it. Plus, it is so damn difficult to get going again after stopping. Keep at it and you will make it. I bet by the 3rd or 4th time, you will slowly pedal it.
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Hmmm. I've seen pics of Fargo street and it looks quite scary! There's one in North Wales that I'm going to have to climb (and no, it's not been photoshopped, possibly slightly exaggerated. This photo is right near the top where it has levelled out...)





This is a mo-fo too that I must try! This is in the Lake district, again, near me...



(I didn't draw on it BTW )

This is quite a good article too...

http://www.bikereader.com/contributo...ley/hills.html
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I think PCad needs to recall Satchel Paige's sage advice: "How old would you be if you didn't know how old you was?"
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