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chips in my madone

Old 09-28-08, 07:04 PM
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chips in my madone

So, I just picked up my never-ridden (except on a trainer..) madone from the bike shop, and upon a closer, pre-ride inspection at home, I found a chip in the clear coat on the frame near the seat mast. It looks like just a chip in the coat, but this concerns me incredibly. I'll probably bring the bike in tomorrow (and skip my first classes this quarter), but can you guys look at it and offer your opinions? It's a chip on the right side of the seat mast on the frame, right by the markings.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30913134@N02/2896481007/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30913134@N02/2896480883/

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Old 09-28-08, 07:17 PM
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bump...please please please please please
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Old 09-28-08, 07:19 PM
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Looks like it might just be the paint, but it's hard to tell. I'd take it in anyway since it's brand new. Shouldn't have any chips.
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Old 09-28-08, 07:20 PM
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I thought you meant chocolate chips.
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take a coin and tap the carbon around it. normal undamaged carbon will sound crisp. if it is damaged, the sound will be dull. But it really looks ok, just take some clear nail polish and touch it up
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Old 09-28-08, 07:30 PM
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I'd use automotive clear coat to build up the depression to the same level as its thicker. It also seals better as a bit of mosture under the clear coat will cause it to lift.
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Old 09-28-08, 07:36 PM
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hmmm ok. I really don't want to skip a day of class to go to the not-so-local-bs, but this defects on new bikes thing is bull ****. I guess I'll just touch it up? Does the Trek carbon warranty cover this kind of stuff?

heh..chocolate chips.
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Old 09-28-08, 07:45 PM
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When I moved the seat mast/post up on my 2008 5.2(same model as yours) the clearcoat was marred from where it was clamped before. It bother me for about a week. Yours is low enough to make me think they put on the seat post on and let it fall all the way to the bottom and gave it a nice gouge(just a theory). It doesn't look like it has damaged the carbon. It still sucks it happened.
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Old 09-28-08, 08:16 PM
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Looks like clearcoat and reminds me of some of the damage left by little pebles that hit the frame. Sucks that it's on a brand new bike and in a somewhat visible spot but with time you'll probably do more damage from everyday riding.
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Old 09-28-08, 08:46 PM
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So, what purpose does the clear coat actually serve, if the damage is not functional? Is it just for appearance, or does it help weather-proof the bike? Because I'm really inclined to just leave it as-is, if it doesn't alter the chances of a huge, carbon explosion

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Old 09-28-08, 08:58 PM
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aren't seat masts infamous for getting cracks in them? I wouldn't worry about it, better yet I would just buy a Ti bike.
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Old 09-28-08, 09:07 PM
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The clear coat is just cosmetic. It does provide a thin layer of armor though.
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looks like it got bumped around at the dealer.... it happens. did you pay full retail?
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Looks like the seat post wasn't loosened enough and was pushed down. I would put a little clear nail polish on it and ride.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
I thought you meant chocolate chips.

I thought he meant Cipcom.

Back to the issue at hand. It looks like the clear coat to me too. Can be touched up pretty easily but is probably worth showing to the shop.
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Looks like the seat post wasn't loosened enough and was pushed down. I would put a little clear nail polish on it and ride.
That's a seatmast, not a seatpost
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I paid about 1k off retail, but still...it would have been nice for them to point this out. There is a layer of silver paint that came off with the coat.
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Old 09-29-08, 11:06 AM
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be careful!

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yeah, that would have been nice to know in advance. BUT $1000 is alot off of a bike for a "scratch and dent" and I wouldn't expect much more than a "sorry man".

that looks like a 5.2 Pro. it's one of my fave paint jobs from 08.
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That sucks, but it appears to be cosmetic damage only. From the pics, I would say that it is perfectly safe to ride.

My brother's neighbor had his Madone vaporize (gnarly crash), so keep tabs on carbon frames and carbon forks.
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Yeah, it rides really smoothly, but I'm incredibly afraid to sit down. I guess I'll work on my sprinting until I hear back from the shop
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before you try to touch it up atleast show the dealer.
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Fill the bike tubes with water and Fizzies to see if it leaks.
Never use a coin to tap a carbon frame.Tap it with a bung hammer(wooden mallet used to tap barrels of beer).One solid swing will tell you if the frame is ok.
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Yeah, it rides really smoothly, but I'm incredibly afraid to sit down. I guess I'll work on my sprinting until I hear back from the shop
dude...i wouldn't even worry about structural damage. the frame is super reinforced right there. its only a cosmetic blem. if it were really damaged you could press on it and it would sound like cornflakes.
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Originally Posted by fosmith View Post
yeah, that would have been nice to know in advance. BUT $1000 is alot off of a bike for a "scratch and dent" and I wouldn't expect much more than a "sorry man".

that looks like a 5.2 Pro. it's one of my fave paint jobs from 08.

+1 -so much I bought one too.
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