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Talk me into a Toupe

Old 09-29-08, 07:47 PM
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Talk me into a Toupe

I've been toying with the idea of buying a Toupe. Right now I'm using a Specialized Comp 143 saddle that I took of my other bike. I've steadily increased my miles by joining my colligate team over the summer. The current ass hatchet I have is a serious pain in the taint. I haven't been on my bike in the last few weeks for fear of aggravating the nerves in that area (I've already seen a doctor). My team is sponsored by Selle Italia. However we won't get any gear for months. What should I do? Should I drop $150 to put a Toupe on my current bike (Late 80's Bottecchia), when I'm going to be getting a new CAAD9 and might be able to get a Selle Italia through sponsorship?

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Update: Looks like I can now get half off an SI saddle. Any SI saddles that are similar to the Toupe? I still have a few days to make the choice before I buy anything...

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Old 09-29-08, 07:52 PM
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Your nuts and ass are worth more than $150 for a few months. Get a nicer saddle.
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I like my toupe, but only after realizing that it was because I hated it the least.
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i have a month old black toupe 143, it was great on my tarmac but its not so comfy on my new bike..so i can sell it to you if you want.
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Old 09-29-08, 07:53 PM
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"Should I drop $150 to put a Toupe"


Ebay is your friend. You can buy virtually any used saddle for a fraction of the new cost and if it doesn't work out, you can resell it with minimal loss. I just bought a Selle Italia SLR for $50 and it looks like it was never used.
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just get an alias, cheaper and more comfortable.
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Old 09-29-08, 08:00 PM
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In my mind, if I buy it from an LBS I can get a full refund. I'd rather not deal with having to resell something I don't like (selling stuff on ebay and craigslist has caused unnecessary hassles in the past).

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just get an alias, cheaper and more comfortable.
What about the Phenom SL? Seems like its somewhere between a Toupe and an Alias...
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Old 09-29-08, 09:25 PM
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might be, I haven't tried it out myself, but phenom is aimed more at MTB
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Old 09-29-08, 09:43 PM
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I had a Toupe team and, to be honest, my $29 Nashbar race saddle is just is comfortable, if a bit heavier.
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Old 09-29-08, 10:04 PM
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I hear they do wonders for balding.
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I really like the Specialized Alias. SOOOO comfy...I can easily go 25-50 miles (depending on terrain) wearing NO CHAMOIS and not experience even a hint of pain. Just fabulous. The Toupe is nice too...lower profile...lighter...but it hurts if I go on a long ride without chamois. The Selle Italia that came with my Cervelo P2C is pretty comfy...not quite as good as an Alias, but decent. I've only had a lot of seat time on two other saddles...the Fizik Arione and the San Marco something or other. They were both AWFUL!!!!! Torture devices. One short ride on each and I wasn't able to ride again for a week.
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Old 09-29-08, 10:17 PM
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Have you tried the toupe? It seens that people either love them or absolutely hate them (see link)

https://www.roadbikereview.com/cat/co...1_2509crx.aspx
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Old 09-29-08, 10:19 PM
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Make sure your ass prefers the Toupe. Saddles are as personal as oral sex for women...some like it, some hate it :-)
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Yea. it seems like people either love it or hate it like any other saddle. I'm going to have the LBS mount it on my bike and let me try it out for a bit, at least on the trainer. I know that it might feel completely different on a 50 mile ride, but apparently the have a 100% satisfaction guarantee. I'll make sure to mention that before I pay. You guys are right...I'll only know if I plant my rear on that thing. While I'm at it I'll give the Alias and Phenom SL a shot too. Thanks.

Any other advice is still welcome...
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I have tried at least a dozen saddles from various brands; Fizik, Selle Italia, Selle San Marco, Koobi, and Specialized. In the Specialized line I had a 143 Alias which, I felt, was like sitting on a brick. My seat bones were during after long rides but no numbness. It was my best so far but far from perfect. I then moved to a San Marco Rever that was light and very comfortable but, for some reason, caused a couple prostatitis after two very hilly centuries. It turned out that it wasn't wide enough. I then tried a 143 Toupe and gave up on it at the one century when my rear end was on fire. Next move was on a Selle Italia Max Flyte that worked very well although it was heavy (a lot of gel and padding). When I learned the Toupe was being made available in size 155 I gave it a try with the intend to save weight. I have now ridden two centuries on it, including the California Death Ride, and doesn't look for anything else to try. The Toupe, if you have the right size, is really a good saddle and way more comfortable than the Alias as it flexes a lot more.
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-1 on the toupe, +1,000 on the comb-over.
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Seriously? I have yet to meet a woman who hates it. Then again, maybe they just all love it because it is with me.






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Make sure your ass prefers the Toupe. Saddles are as personal as oral sex for women...some like it, some hate it :-)
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Toupe + Assos chamois creme = 1 happy gooch
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I had to get off of my Toupe. The Toupe was great for not causing any numbness or "taint" issues but my sit bones were killing me. I tried many adjustments but after a couple of months I had to go elsewjere. I bought a Selle Strike Glider. Man what a difference it has made. No "Taint" issues and just enough padding for my flat butt. They are well worth the cost.
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Originally Posted by JITENSHYAniNORU View Post
I've been toying with the idea of buying a Toupe.
If it makes you feel better to be seen in public with a small animal on your head, go for it.

All you can do is give it a try...nobody else can tell you how a saddle will be for you.
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My bike came with a Gel Toupe. After three rides I was convinced we were not a match and tried various old saddles that I had on the bike. Last spring I was at the LBS and saw the Phenom and purchased it with the intention of returning it if it didn't work out. I am still riding it 4,000 miles later. The Phenom is built like the Toupe with a little more padding and length and cost about 1/3 of what a Toupe cost. I gave the Toupe to my son who used it for races but couldn't stand to ride in it longer than 35 miles due to the soreness to his sit bones.
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Count me in on the "hate it" team.

While most saddles are a personal choice, I have never heard of a saddle that was so binary in people's opinions. Nobody says they are okay. Either the best or the worst saddle they ever tried. Wierd.
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Any Selle Italia saddles with similar a design to the Toupe?
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Just beacuse the saddle is expensive doesn't mean it will work for you. I have a toupe and like it a lot, other people on here claim it's just as comfortable as a $30 nashbar saddle. I had a $30 nashbar saddle and couldn't stand to ride for more than 30 miles, which is why I decided to try the toupe. Seat comfort is no longer an issue. Just depends on the person.
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Originally Posted by JITENSHYAniNORU View Post
I've been toying with the idea of buying a Toupe. Right now I'm using a Specialized Comp 143 saddle that I took of my other bike. I've steadily increased my miles by joining my colligate team over the summer. The current ass hatchet I have is a serious pain in the taint. I haven't been on my bike in the last few weeks for fear of aggravating the nerves in that area (I've already seen a doctor). My team is sponsored by Selle Italia. However we won't get any gear for months. What should I do? Should I drop $150 to put a Toupe on my current bike (Late 80's Bottecchia), when I'm going to be getting a new CAAD9 and might be able to get a Selle Italia through sponsorship?

- Andrew

Update: Looks like I can now get half off an SI saddle. Any SI saddles that are similar to the Toupe? I still have a few days to make the choice before I buy anything...

Have you had your sit bones measured? Pain in the taint sounds like the saddle is too narrow and you might need a 155mm.

THIS is my #1 bike forum pet peeve. People spouting out different brands of saddles that ALL have the same narrow 130-133mm width. If I EVER listened to those people I wouldn't have had my sitbones measured and I would STILL be having taint pain and going numb because I thought I should keep trying narrow saddles.

Well, I had my sit bones measured. I'm a 155mm. I've used Alias, Avatar and now Toupe. 6k miles on the Toupe and 18k miles since I switch widths. Guess what? not one single issue.

So, to the original poster....have your sitbones measured. Then, set your saddle up for YOU on the bike. Either you do it or have someone do it.

My GF was having saddle issues too....we got her measured. She's now using a 2009 Bontrager Inform RL Fit WSD for her width. ZERO issues now for her and that's after blindly trying a Terry saddle.

Jeez...nothing to the OP but whenever these topics are brought up...it is amazing the BAD..BAD...BAD....HORRIBLE advice people give about saddles.
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