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Am I crazy?

Old 09-29-08, 10:36 PM
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Am I crazy?

So I found a Specialized Allez on craigslist the other day. I checked out the bike and to my knowledge (which isn't much) it seemed like a great first bike for a pretty good price (08 model, barely used, $550). I put a deposit on it since I couldn't pick it up yet and ended up doing some research on the model to find out more about the components...

All info that I have seems to show that it's an 03 model. On Specialized's website I can find the frame color only on the 03 Allez 24, nowhere else. It also explains why the bike he showed me has an alloy fork. He explained this by telling me that Specialized has a great aluminum alloy that they created and still use instead of carbon fiber on some bikes...I believed him since I know next to nothing about road bikes.

I brought it up to the seller and he explained that he bought it late last year at a local shop he has a decent relationship with and they sold it to him as a new 08 model. I have no reason to believe the guy, but I have just as much reason to think he's lying. I really want to believe that he got screwed by the shop, but he seems to know enough about bikes that he wouldn't have been fooled that easily.

Bottom line is I still like the bike, but I just feel like I'd be overpaying if I still give him his asking price. Granted it's in great shape, but it's still probably five years older than I was led to believe. He doesn't seem to be flexible at all as far as the price goes, even after I let him know what I found out.

Assuming that the seller is either lying or was lied to when he bought the bike, would I be crazy for still paying $550 for the bike? Browsing craigslist for weeks it seems tough to find a decent bike for less than $650, and my original limit was $500. Maybe I should just find something old and heavy and save my money in these troubled times, haha.

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Old 09-29-08, 10:57 PM
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what are teh specs on the bike? the alloy fork sounds dated. Sometimes it can be tough to tell between one years model and the next but 5 years difference!!!
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Old 09-29-08, 11:00 PM
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$550 is still a decent deal, imo.
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Old 09-29-08, 11:17 PM
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Here's Specialized's page for the bike. Looks exactly as pictured and the specs can be seen on that page as well.

I agree it seems like a decent deal, i guess I'm just reluctant to pay the asking price after finding out it's not what I thought it was...maybe I'm weird.

Thanks for the responses so far.
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$550 for a bike equipped with sora 03' is too much...

I'd pay $350 at most.

you can get a 08' or 09' trek 1.2 which is equipped with sora 08' for $600~700

that 03' sora is 8sp, so it has 8 cogs in the back.
the 08' sora is 9sp, so it has 9 cogs in the back.
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You are getting ripped off. Simple as that. Just to give you a comparison. In 04' I bought an Allez Sport (full 105 with carbon fork) for $850 brand new. That bike probably wasn't even $550 when it was new. Get your money back and tell the guy thanks but no thanks.
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Old 09-30-08, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by badguy View Post
So I found a Specialized Allez on craigslist the other day. I checked out the bike and to my knowledge (which isn't much) it seemed like a great first bike for a pretty good price (08 model, barely used, $550). I put a deposit on it since I couldn't pick it up yet and ended up doing some research on the model to find out more about the components...

All info that I have seems to show that it's an 03 model. On Specialized's website I can find the frame color only on the 03 Allez 24, nowhere else. It also explains why the bike he showed me has an alloy fork. He explained this by telling me that Specialized has a great aluminum alloy that they created and still use instead of carbon fiber on some bikes...I believed him since I know next to nothing about road bikes.

I brought it up to the seller and he explained that he bought it late last year at a local shop he has a decent relationship with and they sold it to him as a new 08 model. I have no reason to believe the guy, but I have just as much reason to think he's lying. I really want to believe that he got screwed by the shop, but he seems to know enough about bikes that he wouldn't have been fooled that easily.

Bottom line is I still like the bike, but I just feel like I'd be overpaying if I still give him his asking price. Granted it's in great shape, but it's still probably five years older than I was led to believe. He doesn't seem to be flexible at all as far as the price goes, even after I let him know what I found out.

Assuming that the seller is either lying or was lied to when he bought the bike, would I be crazy for still paying $550 for the bike? Browsing craigslist for weeks it seems tough to find a decent bike for less than $650, and my original limit was $500. Maybe I should just find something old and heavy and save my money in these troubled times, haha.

Thanks for reading the essay, folks
I don't want to sound authoritative, but when buying pretty much anything on craigslist, prior research is a must. I've gotten tricked into buying a bike from there that wasn't what it was supposed to be, and almost got jipped into buying a camera listed as a model higher than the one sold. You have to take precaution.

Now, with the bike...most entry-level bikes after 2004 or 2005 came with a carbon fiber fork standard. Considering that yours is alloy, the bike is probably older than that. With this considered, I would re-negotiate the price, if possible. If not, you may want to attempt retrieving your deposit back. That might be hard, though. Try to negotiate for $400 or $350.

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When I started researching a bike and trying to confirm E-Bay / CL claims, I would cross-reference bikepedia.com. This was a great resource and, in some cases, lists the MSRP for bikes. I know, after reviewing Allez's, that all of their 08 Models came with a carbon fork. The difference in price points was whether or not the fork had a "zerts" insert (and grupo). However, even the lowest-end Allez had a carbon fork.

After months of searching, I ultimately bought a Caad9 - R6. This was more than I wanted to spend ($975), but I am so happy I did it.

I agree that $550 for Sora on a five-year old bike is too high.

Good luck.
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Old 09-30-08, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MrCrassic View Post
I don't want to sound authoritative, but when buying pretty much anything on craigslist, prior research is a must. I've gotten tricked into buying a bike from there that wasn't what it was supposed to be, and almost got jipped into buying a camera listed as a model higher than the one sold. You have to take precaution.

Good luck!
Word.

I've bought & sold my fair share of stuff on CL and you do have to be educated about what you're looking for or else your at the mercy of all the sellers who lie...and there are plenty of them.

For instance...
Recently, I was looking at a particular brand and make of snowblower for sale and the guy has, in his ad:
"Bought this last year but didn't use it much..."
Well, there was only one problem with his opening sentence: the last year they made that model was 2003!
So, yeah, "buyer beware."
I'd say pass on the bike...if he's trying to say it's an '08..what else is he not telling you?...
Maybe it's been crashed, who knows..

There's plenty of other bikes out there.
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Old 09-30-08, 08:32 AM
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Thanks for the advice everyone. I can get my deposit back from him (he already relisted it on craigslist anyway...guess he was pretty confident I didn't want it). I thought I did my research, but until I saw the bike, it wasn't based on enough information. Oh well.

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Yea, definately too much $ for that bike. This happens everywhere a few days ago there was a bike being sold on eBay as an 07 but it was an 05. I e-mailed the guy to tell him this and he said "the geometrics for the Giant Women`s specific 2005-2007 OCR 2 are the same"........well yes I guess the 'geometrics' are the same but the damm bike is 2 years older than he advertized and has different components (he didnt list the components!)

Don't ever assume the guy selling the bike knows more about bikes than you do!

Good Luck with your search.
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