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Pinarello Prince vs. Orbea Orca vs. Cervelo S3 vs. Parlee Z1

Old 09-30-08, 06:12 PM
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Pinarello Prince vs. Orbea Orca vs. Cervelo S3 vs. Parlee Z1

I am going to upgrade from my current bike to one of the following: 09 Pinarello Prince, 09 Orbea Orca, 09 Cervelo S3, or a Parlee Z1. I am looking for a bike that is fast without a harsh ride, but not too plush. I am not into racing, however I just want to go as fast I can on my weekend rides. I ride for pleasure, fitness, and to lose weight. As an architect the aesthetic of the bike is important. I would appreciate your insights into how these great bikes compare.
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Old 09-30-08, 06:28 PM
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At least be discrete when you troll... Try again, but a little, uh, less maybe...

Maybe you could try "I saw this 08 Prince on Craigslist for $75 cash now. Do you think it's a bargain?" or possibly "I ran my Cervelo through a woodchipper last night, what kind of glue should I use to fix it?"
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Originally Posted by pharding View Post
I am going to upgrade from my current bike to one of the following: 09 Pinarello Prince, 09 Orbea Orca, 09 Cervelo S3, or a Parlee Z1. I am looking for a bike that is fast without a harsh ride, but not too plush. I am not into racing, however I just want to go as fast I can on my weekend rides. I ride for pleasure, fitness, and to lose weight. As an architect the aesthetic of the bike is important. I would appreciate your insights into how these great bikes compare.
why don't you get them all?

if you're serious...you should eliminate the Orca and S3 off the bat...both are harsh for non-racer. The Prince is actually quite comfy. And, of course, the Z1 can be whatever you want it to be...as long as you tell Bob Parlee exactly what you want in a frame.
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Originally Posted by celerystalksme View Post
why don't you get them all?

if you're serious...you should eliminate the Orca and S3 off the bat...both are harsh for non-racer. The Prince is actually quite comfy. And, of course, the Z1 can be whatever you want it to be...as long as you tell Bob Parlee exactly what you want in a frame.

Yeah, this thread goes something like, "I'm not a racer, but I want to buy a race bike." Uh yeah.
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Orbea's are famous for fast without a harsh ride. I have rode several Orcas and they by far had the best ride for a fast bike. They are not the stiffest in the world but they are light, fast, and comfy.
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Nice choices

Originally Posted by pharding View Post
I am going to upgrade from my current bike to one of the following: 09 Pinarello Prince, 09 Orbea Orca, 09 Cervelo S3, or a Parlee Z1. I am looking for a bike that is fast without a harsh ride, but not too plush. I am not into racing, however I just want to go as fast I can on my weekend rides. I ride for pleasure, fitness, and to lose weight. As an architect the aesthetic of the bike is important. I would appreciate your insights into how these great bikes compare.
but how about:



I thought you had an 08 Madone? what don't you like about that?
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Originally Posted by Cateye View Post
Orbea's are famous for fast without a harsh ride. I have rode several Orcas and they by far had the best ride for a fast bike. They are not the stiffest in the world but they are light, fast, and comfy.
The original Orca was comfy. Later generations I felt were a bit harsh. The new 2009...everything I've read, it'll leave you for dead on the side of the road and laugh at your carcass
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Old 09-30-08, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
Yeah, this thread goes something like, "I'm not a racer, but I want to buy a race bike." Uh yeah.
And what's wrong with that?
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Old 09-30-08, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sd790 View Post
At least be discrete when you troll... Try again, but a little, uh, less maybe...

Maybe you could try "I saw this 08 Prince on Craigslist for $75 cash now. Do you think it's a bargain?" or possibly "I ran my Cervelo through a woodchipper last night, what kind of glue should I use to fix it?"
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Yeah, this thread goes something like, "I'm not a racer, but I want to buy a race bike." Uh yeah.
I am just not feeling the love.

The beautiful thing about cycling is that there are many good ways to enjoy it. Does everyone that buys one of those bikes race bicycles? Of course not. This is a wonderful time for bicycle technology. If I choose to take advantage of it, why the negativity on the part of some posters?
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All good choices. But seriously, are you anti the Madone? If so, why?
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pharding,

no worries. i have a $7000+ ride...a $3000+...another $3000+...and a $2500. i ride like a snail...and i've never raced. i just like enjoying nice bikes! so if you got the bling...buy it all!
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Originally Posted by pharding View Post
I am just not feeling the love.

The beautiful thing about cycling is that there are many good ways to enjoy it. Does everyone that buys one of those bikes race bicycles? Of course not. This is a wonderful time for bicycle technology. If I choose to take advantage of it, why the negativity on the part of some posters?
Jealousy?

I think that the S3 is a beautiful bike, but I've heard that it's a harsher ride than the R3.
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Old 09-30-08, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPete View Post
And what's wrong with that?
Some people can't afford nice things and it bothers them.
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I have a Pinarello F4:13 which is the same geometry as the Price. I really like it. Unfortunately I haven't ridden any of the others to compare it to.
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Originally Posted by JayC View Post
I have a Pinarello F4:13 which is the same geometry as the Price. I really like it. Unfortunately I haven't ridden any of the others to compare it to.

They are not the same geometry. But I would get the prince. Better yet, test ride a Dogma..
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I'm going Orbea on this one...
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DEFINITELY NOT ORBEA! Not even in the same class of bikes.
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Originally Posted by Vireo View Post
DEFINITELY NOT ORBEA! Not even in the same class of bikes.
i wouldn't say that. i have no doubt the 2009 Orbea Orca is just as competent as a Pinarello Prince or a Cervelo S3. The Parlee...that's a different sort of creature...
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Originally Posted by MadeInItaly View Post
They are not the same geometry. But I would get the prince. Better yet, test ride a Dogma..
I guess Pinarello listing both of them under the same geometry chart was a lie then.

So many know it alls on this forum.
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Originally Posted by JayC View Post
I guess Pinarello listing both of them under the same geometry chart was a lie then.

So many know it alls on this forum.
If Competitive Cyclist geometry charts are right, they seem to have different geometries.
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Originally Posted by pharding View Post
I am just not feeling the love.

The beautiful thing about cycling is that there are many good ways to enjoy it. Does everyone that buys one of those bikes race bicycles? Of course not. This is a wonderful time for bicycle technology. If I choose to take advantage of it, why the negativity on the part of some posters?
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Originally Posted by pharding View Post
This is a wonderful time for bicycle technology..
Well, sure, but so were the 1960's. Who knew then what would be coming down the pike? Likewise the 1890's. That's the marvelous thing about technology - whatever you've got now is always the most wonderful it has ever been! Knee-jerk retrogrouchery aside, I mean. Practical parts and bikes (meaning not the kind of stuff anyone in this forum uses) are more available to the cycling masses now than at any other time in the past. It just isn't pretty enough, I guess.
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Originally Posted by celerystalksme View Post
If Competitive Cyclist geometry charts are right, they seem to have different geometries.
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Originally Posted by JayC View Post
I guess Pinarello listing both of them under the same geometry chart was a lie then.

So many know it alls on this forum.
And how do you think they can justify selling them for 2k more. Because they are 2 grams less??
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Originally Posted by MadeInItaly View Post
They are not the same geometry. But I would get the prince. Better yet, test ride a Dogma..
+1 for the dogma.
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