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Transition to running for the winter????

Old 10-05-08, 08:15 PM
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Transition to running for the winter????

I ride year round , about 7000 miles/yr, but only during the winter do I run at lunch 5 to 7 miles at about 8 min/mile and ride on the weekends.

The transition to runnning is always hard and painful. Wondered if anyone knows a better way to help the riding legs remember how to run. I tried one day of running 5 min and walking 5 min, and had really sore legs for days.

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Old 10-05-08, 09:28 PM
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You know what I'm going to be doing this winter?

Watching my legs rot away and get a monitor tan.

Oh yeah, and snowboarding every week end.

I love being 17(18).
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Old 10-05-08, 09:41 PM
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Screw running. Wrecks the knees. Part of why I switched to cycling.
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Your approach is as good as any. Next year, run at least one day per week during cycling season, and it will be much easier.

I run a lot more in the winter too.
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Just start slow at first, and build up to longer runs. Can I assume you're going for just distance, rather than distance and speed? If you want to avoid getting too sore, run every other day during the week, and gradually build up the distance you do each week.

For example, start off doing 4 or 5 miles each day (depending on how you feel) for the first week, and tack on another mile to each of those days the next, until you reach 10-12 miles per day, or whatever you're comfortable with. Just don't, for example, run the same distance every day of the week. Use the in between days to recover with a light run, a speed workout, or even nothing at all. If you like, go for a longer than usual run on Saturday, and just recover/relax on Sunday.

Mix things up every once in a while if it gets monotonous. I know I get tired of doing the same 5k loop over and over after a while; even just doing it backwards or varying the route slightly keeps things interesting.

p.s. Work on form to avoid butchering your knees. Make your feet land and push off heel-to-toe, as they say.

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Old 10-05-08, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dark13star View Post
Your approach is as good as any. Next year, run at least one day per week during cycling season, and it will be much easier.

I run a lot more in the winter too.
This is good advice. I'm participating in a relay for the Marine Corps Marathon in 3 weeks, so I've been running more than cycling lately.
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Old 10-05-08, 09:57 PM
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I don't run (my feet can't take it anymore) BUT I walk year round. In the summer I walk about 10 km/week and through the fall and winter I walk about 16 km/week.

Perhaps if you walked 5 days a week year round, it would make running a bit easier should you feel the desire to do that.
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I usually trail run more often than I bike, but lately I've been biking more often and haven't run in about three weeks. When I do go running next, I'll just take it slow and go as far as I feel like. As the others have said, don't push it at first. It'll come back.

And as far as running hurting your knees, that depends on the runner. It's never given me knee pain, although mountain hiking (don't exactly know why) and biking (before I adjusted my saddle and stopped grinding up every hill) have.
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Originally Posted by Motman320 View Post
You know what I'm going to be doing this winter?

Watching my legs rot away and get a monitor tan.

Oh yeah, and snowboarding every week end.

I love being 17(18).
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Get out on the bike wuss!

Same goes to the OP, and besides cycling is better on your knees.
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running is hard. i have no easy way to get back into it. just do it. the walk and run thing is likely a good idea for you. later.
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Originally Posted by merlin55 View Post
I ride year round , about 7000 miles/yr, but only during the winter do I run at lunch 5 to 7 miles at about 8 min/mile and ride on the weekends.

The transition to runnning is always hard and painful. Wondered if anyone knows a better way to help the riding legs remember how to run. I tried one day of running 5 min and walking 5 min, and had really sore legs for days.

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I think your body is trying to tell you something.

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Get an MTB. Hey, there's another excuse to post a photo of mine. Here it is with fenders, all ready for the slop and the snow:

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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
Get an MTB. Hey, there's another excuse to post a photo of mine. Here it is with fenders, all ready for the slop and the snow:

+1 If you want to maintain cycling fitness over the winter, this is the way to do it. Running is good for cardio, but there's little carryover to cycling.
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Be fricking careful and don't assume that just because you can ride, you can run. I went for a 20 minute cross country run on Friday after not running for almost a year and now I think I may have given myself a stress fracture in my right foot. You think you're just cruising along because of all your cycling fitness then find yourself with a gimp foot. It didn't keep me from a 50 mile ride the day after because it only hurts while walking, not on the bike. But still, be careful and don't do what I did.
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Get an MTB. Hey, there's another excuse to post a photo of mine. Here it is with fenders, all ready for the slop and the snow:

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ahhh, you use frogs as well? cool. i like you more now.

i think you should upgrade to a different fork.

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Originally Posted by StanSeven View Post
+1 If you want to maintain cycling fitness over the winter, this is the way to do it. Running is good for cardio, but there's little carryover to cycling.
For those just getting into shape, running will help build a stronger core, as least I think, as well as other basic exercises. For any good bikers, yeah, probably no advantage.
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If you are transitioning to running, trails or other softer (than concrete or macadam) surfaces are the way to go.
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Originally Posted by merlin55 View Post
I ride year round , about 7000 miles/yr, but only during the winter do I run at lunch 5 to 7 miles at about 8 min/mile and ride on the weekends.

The transition to runnning is always hard and painful. Wondered if anyone knows a better way to help the riding legs remember how to run. I tried one day of running 5 min and walking 5 min, and had really sore legs for days.

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Same thing with leg soreness happened to me and I did alot of running in my youth. Run/walk is the best way to get back into things. For those who say screw running or weight lifting or whatever are at risk of problems(bone thinning) as they age with cycling as their sole source of fitness.
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I'll start today with my 3 mile course up here. First week or two is never easy. If I don't do run/walk intervals for a while my calves explode.
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If you are transitioning to running, trails or other softer (than concrete or macadam) surfaces are the way to go.
You can really get away with running on any surface, so long as you don't change it too frequently. That is, if you prefer pavement, stick to roads; dirt and grass, to trails. If you prefer rubber, stick to the track (my favorite ).
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As long as you ease into it, the stress of running is actually a good thing. I find that cycling leaves my muscles too unprepared for activities with impact (hiking, backpacking, etc.). I had a brutal time with my feet on my backpacking trips this July. I was in great cardio shape, but my feet and legs just weren't ready to carry weight over the mountains. Since then, I am sticking to at least one run per week, and will have more as it gets colder.
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Originally Posted by Jrather View Post
Be fricking careful and don't assume that just because you can ride, you can run. I went for a 20 minute cross country run on Friday after not running for almost a year and now I think I may have given myself a stress fracture in my right foot. You think you're just cruising along because of all your cycling fitness then find yourself with a gimp foot. It didn't keep me from a 50 mile ride the day after because it only hurts while walking, not on the bike. But still, be careful and don't do what I did.
Yup. I'm a pretty strong cyclist and made the big mistake of assuming that I would also be a strong runner. So when I began running, I started way too strong, sprinting fast and hard. Within a week, I tore my ham string.
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I started off as a runner and added on biking. First off, I have to say that I find myself cycling more so post biathlon as well as it getting colder. Leading up to my biathlon, I would be knocking out 3-5miles daily and maybe once or twice a week on my bike. After the race, I'm on my bike 5-6x per week and running once or twice a week under 2miles. Very sad but I do plan on going back to running as it gets colder. Like all things, completely gradual so take your time. Knock out a mile if that's your limit, stack up another mile after 2 weeks of training, just keep going and going.
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