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Colnago Master X-Light
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DeRosa Neo Primato
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Cinelli Super Corsa
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Best classic steel bike: Colnago, Cinelli or Derosa?

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Old 10-15-08, 01:56 PM
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The Rock Racing crew says the Derosa carbon frames suck. Supposedly every member on the team has broken at least one frame, most of the time at the chain stays. Nothing to do with steel but I just thought I would share.
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Too bad. They looked killer. I wondered why that relationship soured so fast.
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I know you want classic, but what about custom steel?

Plenty of great custom steel out there and many have been around for a while, but I guess the wait goes up the longer they've been around. I think sachs has a crazy wait time right now. Not classic, but beautiful are Vanilla bikes. I've always been partial to Mercian bikes.

Oh and +1 on the Paramount. Chicago made Schwinns are great bikes.
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I voted Supercorsa because I have one (and nice one MIN!). Very understated and classic looking, but any of the above mentioned frames would be classic - especially with Campy Record components!
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Colnago if you're limiting yourself to just those three, but you really ought to consider including Pinarello, Bottechia & Pegoretti.

Gotta go . . . I'm starting to foul the keyboard with drool.
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I voted randomly as I have no experience with any of those bikes but I still wanted to participate.
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Anything you picked was a winner..
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Cinelli Super Corsa...and NOT the ones being sold today but the vintage, pre-90's ones that were hand made in Italy.

That said, a Masi Volumetrica Soviet Team issue with a Campy 50th anniversary groupo would be sweet.
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Another vote for Waterford. They probably have more experience building lugged Reynolds 953 frames than anybody else in the world, and will be building seventy custom lugged 953 70th Anniversary Paramount framesets for Schwinn.







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Was also gonna say Merckx . . .
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Originally Posted by MadeInItaly
If you can't appreciate a classic Paramount , you don't love steel. New Waterfords are sweet too. I need to win the lotto.
Amen, brother. I'll take my Paramount over the more expensive stuff. It's a hell of a nice bike.
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Just get one of each
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I have a custom Holdsworth Super Mistral, so I can legally look down my nose at those comparatively mass produced bikes the me-too types think are so special
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I love my NeoPrimato...
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Old school creme' de la creme' steel? Richard Sachs. Now made from unobtanium.
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Originally Posted by Hocam
Waterford made many of the paramount series of bikes for Schwinn, just as classic as a cinelli or colnago.

He said classic, not italian.
Yes; and "classic" doesn't necessarily mean "vintage". A brand new 953 lugged steel frame with traditional geometry meets the definition of "classic"....
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Originally Posted by Scooper
Yes; and "classic" doesn't necessarily mean "vintage". A brand new 953 lugged steel frame with traditional geometry meets the definition of "classic"....
Both words are pointless and overused when applied to bikes. At least we know vintage simply means old. A quick ebay/CL search confirms. Classic seems to be a word reserved for bikes built so you can post pictures on an internet forum and decorate your garage wall.
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Both words are pointless and overused when applied to bikes. At least we know vintage simply means old. A quick ebay/CL search confirms. Classic seems to be a word reserved for bikes built so you can post pictures on an internet forum and decorate your garage wall.
Whichever frame I build up... I plan to ride the crap out of it.
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Please post more pics of that ...
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Originally Posted by MadeInItaly
Please post more pics of that ...
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Originally Posted by cuteo100
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Damn that is exquisite
I figure about 19-20# Fkn hot
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I say: DeRosa w/ steel fork > Colnago w/ Star fork > Cinelli > DeRosa w/ carbon fork > Eddy Merckx


i mean, its not as if im biased or anything

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