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Alternative to Gunnar Sport?

Old 10-21-08, 10:55 PM
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Alternative to Gunnar Sport?

Background:

I've been riding a "sport road" aluminum bike which has the following geometry:
ETT: 58
seat tube angle: 73*
head tube angle: 72*
head tube length: 20
chainstays: 42

Yes, it is a road frame with a 72* 20cm head tube. That is a big help to me as I wear glasses and ride at night during which time I need to see through the lenses of my glasses and that means I need "upright" geometry. The geometry of the bike allows this perfectly.

That is all good and well but I want a frame with more vertical flexibility or that will allow me to run tires bigger than 28cm. To that end I was going to build up a Soma Smoothie ES with 73d parallel head & seat tube angles until I realized how much better the relaxed, long headtube is for me. I looked around and found that the Gunnar Sport offers geometry almost identical to my current road frame, but the Sport frame costs $800 or over $1000 for the frameset. Too expensive for me.

The Sport's geometry, size 60:
ETT: 58
seat tube angle: 73
head tube angle: 72.5
head tube length: 190
chainstays: 435

My question- is there another frame on the market that has geometry similar to the Sport but costs more in the neighborhood of $5-600 or up to $700 for the frameset?

I looked at the Salsa Casserol but some people have problems with the rear axle rotating in the dropouts.
The Surlys have long top tubes and short head tubes. Nope.
The Soma Smoothie ES in my size, 58, would give me 73 head tube/73 seat tube geometry along with a 170mm head tube. Don't want to settle for that.
The Kona Jake frameset comes with a 72.5* headtube but a 160mm (headtube) length. Even with a 390mm axle-to-crown fork, I don't think it would have bars as high and close as I'd like.

And helpful suggestions are welcome.
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The Masi CXR cross frameset is $629, has a HT length of 190 in your size.

You have to download the catalog (a pdf) to find the geometry...

http://masibikes.com/tab2_subNav2.php
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Old 10-22-08, 08:50 AM
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OP's question is a good one. There are not nearly enough frames with this geometry.

I think you might be able to fit 28mm on a giant OCR. Can anyone confirm?
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I picked up a new Gunnar Road Sport on E-bay for $350 in 2005.
Keep looking, it's a good frame, (steel and all that real stuff).
Been very happy with it. I'm running 700x32 Specialized CX-pro tires and can go just about anywhere, although rough trails are more effort than it's worth.
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The Masi's price is right but I think I would have to size up to get the bigger headtube which I don't want to do. Thanks for the quick suggestion though, Benge.

I don't think that Giant makes the OCR anymore, at least not in a frameset but thanks for calling my attention to them as Giant's frames seem to be characterized by lax headtube angles.

I've been checking Ebay for a Gunnar Sport frame to come floating to the surface. I may just keep waiting as I otherwise have rideable bikes for now.
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