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10-27-08, 11:18 PM
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Looks like the back of my FSA Team Issue cranks. And mine are a couple years old but have that indentation in the spider arms like the MOST crank photo.
If you look at the bolt pattern on the Quarq website for the CinQo, it looks the same. But without knowing the bolt pattern spacing, it's all speculative.
If you look at the bolt pattern on the Quarq website for the CinQo, it looks the same. But without knowing the bolt pattern spacing, it's all speculative.
10-28-08, 09:48 AM
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After some emails back and forth with Mieke from Quarq I sent my crank in today, she thinks it looks close enough to the FSA that they are going to try and fit a CinQo on for me. I should have an update from them in the next couple days and I'm hoping to have the crank back by Friday or Saturday.
I'll keep you guys posted.
I'll keep you guys posted.
11-03-08, 03:00 PM
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UPDATE:
I got my crank back from Quarq on Friday with the CinQo in place and put it back on my bike after work. It seemed to work, my rudimentary test involved spinning the crank in my workstand and I got a few watts to display on the screen. Pairing with my Edge 705 was an absolute breeze.
I took it out and hammered away on Saturday and it worked flawlessly. I did a few loops around Central Park and actually had a guy ride up next to me and ask if that was a power meter on my crank and how I liked it.
Many thanks to Mieke and Jim at Quarq. They are really nice people and went out of their way to make sure everything went smoothly through the entire transaction.
Without further adue, attached is a photo of the finished project - actually come to think of it I haven't posted a photo of my bike yet so here it is.
I got my crank back from Quarq on Friday with the CinQo in place and put it back on my bike after work. It seemed to work, my rudimentary test involved spinning the crank in my workstand and I got a few watts to display on the screen. Pairing with my Edge 705 was an absolute breeze.
I took it out and hammered away on Saturday and it worked flawlessly. I did a few loops around Central Park and actually had a guy ride up next to me and ask if that was a power meter on my crank and how I liked it.
Many thanks to Mieke and Jim at Quarq. They are really nice people and went out of their way to make sure everything went smoothly through the entire transaction.
Without further adue, attached is a photo of the finished project - actually come to think of it I haven't posted a photo of my bike yet so here it is.
11-03-08, 03:08 PM
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Glad it worked out for you. I agree about Jim and Mieke, top notch service so far.
11-03-08, 03:19 PM
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From Quarq:
Crank Arms Compatibility:
The CinQo is designed for attachment to production cranksets with separate spider assemblies.
First Production Run (130mm BCD only):
* FSA Team Issue
* SRAM S900
* Bontrager Race X Lite
* Truvativ Rouleur Carbon
* Pinarello MOST
We will initially be selling FSA Team Issue and SRAM S900 cranks for $330 (includes bottom bracket and chainrings).
Crank Arms Compatibility:
The CinQo is designed for attachment to production cranksets with separate spider assemblies.
First Production Run (130mm BCD only):
* FSA Team Issue
* SRAM S900
* Bontrager Race X Lite
* Truvativ Rouleur Carbon
* Pinarello MOST
We will initially be selling FSA Team Issue and SRAM S900 cranks for $330 (includes bottom bracket and chainrings).
11-03-08, 03:27 PM
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Cool 
Make sure you set the recording to 1s, if you haven't already done so...
Make sure you set the recording to 1s, if you haven't already done so...
11-03-08, 03:33 PM
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11-03-08, 04:21 PM
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From Quarq:
Crank Arms Compatibility:
The CinQo is designed for attachment to production cranksets with separate spider assemblies.
First Production Run (130mm BCD only):
* FSA Team Issue
* SRAM S900
* Bontrager Race X Lite
* Truvativ Rouleur Carbon
* Pinarello MOST
We will initially be selling FSA Team Issue and SRAM S900 cranks for $330 (includes bottom bracket and chainrings).
Crank Arms Compatibility:
The CinQo is designed for attachment to production cranksets with separate spider assemblies.
First Production Run (130mm BCD only):
* FSA Team Issue
* SRAM S900
* Bontrager Race X Lite
* Truvativ Rouleur Carbon
* Pinarello MOST
We will initially be selling FSA Team Issue and SRAM S900 cranks for $330 (includes bottom bracket and chainrings).
Now, for people who like the stock MOST cranks on their pinarello's, the quarq is a logical choice, especially if they have or want a garmin.
11-03-08, 04:28 PM
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FWIW:
Future Production Runs:
* FSA Krono TT
* Cannondale SI Hollowgram
* Specialized S-Works Carbon
* Lightning Carbon
* Rotor Agilis
* FSA Carbon Pro Track
We will continue to increase our list of compatible cranks as we move forward.
* Since the CinQo replaces the spider on stock cranksets, cranks that have an integrated spider and crank arm such as Shimano or Campagnolo will not be compatible with the CinQo.
Future Production Runs:
* FSA Krono TT
* Cannondale SI Hollowgram
* Specialized S-Works Carbon
* Lightning Carbon
* Rotor Agilis
* FSA Carbon Pro Track
We will continue to increase our list of compatible cranks as we move forward.
* Since the CinQo replaces the spider on stock cranksets, cranks that have an integrated spider and crank arm such as Shimano or Campagnolo will not be compatible with the CinQo.
11-03-08, 04:36 PM
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I'm still looking forward to that specialized version 
11-03-08, 04:50 PM
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I've decided there is no easy option that doesn't involve spending a butt-load of money for me to train with power. I've got lots of wheels and still want a set of deep carbon tubulars, but don't want to add a Powertap [to those]. I wouldn't mind an SRM, but then I'd have to decide which bike it'd go on. And because I apparently suck at planning, swapping Powertap wheels back and forth [if i did get one] isn't easy since the two bikes I ride most are equipped with either SRAM or Campy. I need a sponsor, lol
11-03-08, 05:37 PM
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11-03-08, 05:54 PM
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Steve, have you had the PT and Quarq on the bike simultaneously? What was the verdict if so?
11-03-08, 05:59 PM
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Yes. The numbers are very similar when reviewing the data, but they are rarely the same on the display due to update frequency, etc. The PT display seems to recognize increases sooner but takes longer to go to zero when coasting. Also, when I was doing some sprints the other day, the PT recorded higher peaks because of the way it samples. The Quarq's were more realistic but the PT's made me feel better
...or you can have it set at something a bit more reasonable like a 5s moving average, which it sounds like what jmechy has it set up to do. I have mine set at a 5s display average.BTW, to be clear, the display averaging rate is separate from the recording rate. You can still have it recording at 1.26s intervals.
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Steve, in case you don't know this yet, but the display averaging period on the PT is user configurable. You can go all the way down to 1 sec (actually 1.26s) if you like and see every sample as it jumps around due to the aliasing ...or you can have it set at something a bit more reasonable like a 5s moving average, which it sounds like what jmechy has it set up to do. I have mine set at a 5s display average.
BTW, to be clear, the display averaging rate is separate from the recording rate. You can still have it recording at 1.26s intervals.
...or you can have it set at something a bit more reasonable like a 5s moving average, which it sounds like what jmechy has it set up to do. I have mine set at a 5s display average.BTW, to be clear, the display averaging rate is separate from the recording rate. You can still have it recording at 1.26s intervals.
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That is one of my gripes with the Garmin. The display rate is 1 second. My PT was set to 1 second record and 5 second display.
11-03-08, 07:18 PM
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I believe that although the Garmin is displaying 1 second, it too is averaging over several seconds. However, because of the way the Quarq sends data that is already averaged instead of the momentary value like the PT, I think it is less of an issue (unless I misunderstood the PT's transmission).
11-03-08, 07:31 PM
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I believe that although the Garmin is displaying 1 second, it too is averaging over several seconds. However, because of the way the Quarq sends data that is already averaged instead of the momentary value like the PT, I think it is less of an issue (unless I misunderstood the PT's transmission).
The CinQo, on the other hand, sends "packets" of data every 1/4s that contain the average of the last COMPLETE pedal cycle. In other words, the Garmin only "sees" averages of complete pedal revolutions, and the numbers being transmitted are updated upon the completion of a pedal cycle. Now...how the Garmin handles that data stream, and what it displays/records is an open question. The same is true of how the iAero handles the CinQo data, and I currently have a question in to them as to how it handles the data stream. Actually...I know someone who just might have some insight into the Garmin setup...stay tuned, I'll see what I can find out...
