Dahon.

Just kidding. Why not ride both and see which feels right to you?

Fine- nicest shop bike I've ridden around the block. Astoundingly, most strangers don't let 16 year olds ride their bikes.

Seven... no doubt.

I am agreement with the others who have said why these two? They are so different it makes me question if you really have any idea of what you really want. My opinion is ride lot's more bikes. There are many many....many fine bikes on the market today and to limit yourself to these two that are obviously so different may be doing yourself an injustice.

For long cafe rides, centuries and posing "play to display" rides = Seven

For real racing = Cervelo

The thing that stands out to me in the OP is that s/he didn't mention specific models, just brands. That suggests more searching might be in order--just as if someone in the commuting forum asked whether to buy a "Trek" or a "Giant".

When it comes down to it - whether or not anyone is honest enough to admit it - your purchases are more emotional than studied and analytical. The bike companies sell the sizzle, not the steak for a reason. So don't blame the OP - answer his question !!

My answer - Seven if you're a serious recreational rider planning on doing a few hundred miles a week and some big group rides several times a season.

By the Cervelo if ya wanna race.

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-13?

Why not another Colnago? Italian geometry is just a wee bit different than Cervelo's one angle fits all and Seven's 'pray your fitter isn't insane' style...

Between the two brands----Cervelo- without hesitation.

I just can't understand why someone would buy Ti. And then on top of that pay full price for a new one.

My opinion only---- there is nothing special about Ti. Years ago I considered buying a Seven. So I test rode a quite a few Ti bikes. The Axiom, the Ellium, from Litespeed Ultimate, Vortex, and Sienna and wondered what all the hype was about. And these were not rides around the block. The Sienna I rode for 3 months. I recently rode an Archon for 300+ miles. And while it was a nice bike I didn't see what the big deal was. I just can't justify the cost of Ti.

There are so many brands out there that these two should not be in a comparison thread. What the OP should have asked is-- Ti or Carbon.

Carbon is lighter, stiffer, smoother riding and less expensive.

This thread reminds me more of a troll every time I think about it.

if you enjoyed your colnago go with the cervelo.

ride one and you'll know why they are so popular and praised.

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Four.

Yes. That would have framed the issue much more nicely.

Three French hens.

"They are so different it makes me question if you really have any idea of what you really want."


+ 100. This is exactly right.

These are 2 totally different bikes. You obviously picked these 2 based on name recognition and not bases on the desired ride quality. That would not be a very wise way to make an expensive purchase. I suggest you take your time and do your homework (test rides, etc.) and in the end, you will be more satisfied.

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I think its the "marketing hype" surrounding Ti as a boutique and rare, hard to fabricate/weld material. Wherein carbon, in the right hands, has already been proven to be a superior pure racing material for roadbikes...Ti has that more or less imagined aura of rareness...of exquisite craftmanship...and most importantly..uniqueness to stand out with mostly aluminum and carbon users.

A lot of people swear by its comfort but I reckon its standing out and having a boutique bike thats really the reason for buying it. This is afterall BF. As someone mentioned almost "everyone is ******** here".:lol:

Then why not just go Parlee or Crumpton? Custom carbon by guys who specialize in the field (Cervelo whole geometry thing still leaves me a bit off...cool ideas for bikes though).

Madone, there someone said it.

The count speaks for itself. What's that score, about 30 to 3??

Oh yeah, right, everybody else is misinformed except the carbon fans. :lol:

You just described the sizzle not the steak.

That being said - Ti is the bomb. It's bomb proof compared to carbon or steel (steel can rust/carbon can break), it's light compared to steel, it's a better ride than aluminum - it has all the attributes one wants in a bicycle frame material except it's damn expensive. It's not as sexy as a lugged Mercian - it's welded. I don't give it any points for exquisite craftsmanship like I would a lugged Mercian or a Waterford - but Ti does have a lotta sizzle. And a lot of steak to back it up.

When I went to Ti I immediately lost 5 pounds on the frame compared to my steel ride, and that made a huge difference in climbing. And I don't worry about it like I would if I bought a carbon frame. There are a lot of practical attributes that are very positive with Ti. It's not just the sizzle !

Niether. Get a tarmac. Once you go specialized, you won't go back.