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Conti GP 4 Seasons or 4000s?

Old 11-12-08, 10:58 AM
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I like contis. GP 4000 for racing, and Gatorskins for training. The gatorskins don't grip so well in a tight corner, but they last for ages and have reasonable puncture proofness. I've not used the GP 4Seasons, looks to me like a winter training tyre for people who want to spend more money, which I don't. Gatorskins are perfectly servicable for that job.
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Old 11-12-08, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Basil Moss View Post
I like contis. GP 4000 for racing, and Gatorskins for training. The gatorskins don't grip so well in a tight corner, but they last for ages and have reasonable puncture proofness. I've not used the GP 4Seasons, looks to me like a winter training tyre for people who want to spend more money, which I don't. Gatorskins are perfectly servicable for that job.
If your main complaint about the Gatorskin is cornering grip, the 4-Seasons is designed to fix that issue. Price is usually only a couple of dollars higher. The current (sold out) PBK price on Gatorskins is unusually cheap.
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Old 11-12-08, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mihlbach View Post
My understanding is that they are temporarily unavailable as Michelin is moving production of the Krylion to Asia. I could be wrong, but thats what I've heard. Perhaps someone else could clarify.
This is correct. I got bad info about 2-3 months ago stating they were improving the tire. As it turns out the same machine that makes the pro 3 race makes the krylion. Due to the delay on their move they're using all the machines to produce their new tires.

There is still some old stock floating around, so you might be able to find the krylion. We're expecting them back in stock in early 09.
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Old 11-12-08, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by roshea View Post
I just removed my rear GP4000S after a bit over 7,200 km (~4,500 miles) and no punctures - it was pretty squared off but not through the wear indicators. I swapped the front one (same distance, 1 puncture) onto the back wheel because it still looks fine. VERY happy with these tyres.
Wow, 4500 miles. What do you weigh? That's impressive results.
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Old 11-12-08, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob P View Post
Wow, 4500 miles. What do you weigh? That's impressive results.
No kidding.

I just retired a set of 4000s at 1500 miles that were totally shot. They're nice tires but don't buy them for their longevity. Of course I've been known to dial it up to 400 watts every now and then
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Old 11-12-08, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mp123 View Post
No kidding.

I just retired a set of 4000s at 1500 miles that were totally shot. They're nice tires but don't buy them for their longevity. Of course I've been known to dial it up to 400 watts every now and then
1500 miles is extremely low mileage. I'd go as far as to say you are the exception, not the norm.
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Originally Posted by Rob P View Post
1500 miles is extremely low mileage. I'd go as far as to say you are the exception, not the norm.
All the roads I ride are rough chip seal, maybe that has something to do with it? Maybe with smooth asphalt they'd last longer...
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Old 11-12-08, 01:30 PM
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4000S. Great tire on dry roads, and pretty good on wet. No flats for me yet since changing over to these tires (knock wood). Very good ride, even with the generally lousy condition of the roads I travel on.

One more thing about them...I've never felt more confident riding over wet leaves than I am with these tires. They track straight and true, no skittish feeling like I used to get with Vittorias and Michelins.
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Old 11-12-08, 03:59 PM
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I bought the 4000s w/ chilli and while a smooth riding tire; I got a flat during a ride within the first 50 miles. I've only had one other flat before...so maybe it was just poor luck. I too the 400s off and bought the Conti 4 season's because I had a upcoming century and didn't want to be stuck changing a tube during the ride. They are a stiffer ride but so far so good.
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Old 11-13-08, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob P View Post
Wow, 4500 miles. What do you weigh? That's impressive results.
Weight around 75 kg (165 lb). I don't get many flats for some reason, but the wear on these tyres has been great. Note - these are the 4000S (newer version), not the other 4000.
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Old 11-13-08, 12:50 PM
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conti gp4000. best tire i have used in 45 years of cycling.
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Old 11-14-08, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mp123 View Post
All the roads I ride are rough chip seal, maybe that has something to do with it? Maybe with smooth asphalt they'd last longer...
That would explain it.

Originally Posted by roshea View Post
Weight around 75 kg (165 lb). I don't get many flats for some reason, but the wear on these tyres has been great. Note - these are the 4000S (newer version), not the other 4000.
I tend not to flat much too and I'm 175. I'll have to finish up with these pro 3 races and go for a long road test on the 4000S again to see if I can get that kind of mileage. 4500 is very impressive.
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Old 11-14-08, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MadeInItaly View Post
He wants to try something different.
Actually, Rob was referring to the Contis.
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If you guys like the GP 4000s, you should check out the Conti GP Attack&Force Set... Been riding them for 5k+ miles, no puncture yet. And the feel, in my opinion is even better/faster than the 4000s...


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