the_drain

strip the paint and decals. :-)

acorn_user

@dmotoguy... I would not use the KCNC brakes. Centaur brakes are so good. Maybe you could lose a little weight with Mavic SSC calipers? If you wanted to lose a bit more weight, you could swap the Centaur chain rings. I think they used ED rather than UD rings on those. You could buy Chorus rings or go all pro and use TA Vento/Horus or Stronglight CT2 rings. The Stronglight rings weigh 76g and 35g according to their website....

bdcheung

I use the KCNC brakes, and at 150 pounds I can easily lock up both wheels with Kool STop salmon pads.

domestique

Very Nice Build BD, especially with the SRM cranks

I have a C'Dale six13 that I built up over the better part of the last 2 months. so far it comes in at 17.42 Kg… not an official weight weenie, but I’m going for durability and overall ride comfort…. But like you, I am starting to get the WW bug.

2005 Six13 (56)
C'Dale Slice SI fork (made by Time, surprising lightweight at 310g with alloy drops
DT Swiss RR 1.1 (28 front, 32 rear with Sapim CX-rays) heavy at 1500+ grams, but a very nice ride for training and pretty stiff for climbing.
White Industries Hubs (H2)
2008 Record Shifters
2008 Record Brakes
2008 Record FD
2008 Record RD
KCNC RD Pulleys (11teeth, 10 teeth, with ceramic bearings)
2008 Chorus Compact (50/36 with Stronglight "ceramic" coated chain rings)
Centaur Cassette (11-23, 11-25
Thomson Masterpiece (250mm, uncut)
Thomson Top Cap
Ritchey WCS stem (100mm -17)
Ritchey WCS Bars (44cm classic)
Dura-ace "SPD-SL" pedals
Jagwire "racer" cables
Tacx Tao cages (x2)
Specialized Toupe saddle (143 "unpadded")
Rox rim tape
Conti GP400 "s", also have michelin pro 3's, Ultremo R's and Vittoria Evo Corsa CX)
Michelin tubes
GARMIN 705, with speed & cadence sensor

I could easily lose a lot of weight with lighter wheels (600 grams) , KCNC brakes (100 grams), lighter cassette (30 grams), and lighter tires (50 grams) (I have Veloflex Record Tires for special occasions) ; )

Overall do you like your KCNC brakes? I would love to get a set in anodized red, almost bought a set on ebay (brand new) for $249 but with getting married in less then 25 days, the money can be better spend elsewhere.

BTW, like someone else said, the stronglight chain rings (CT2 Cermic/Teflon treated) would be an easy way to drop some grams…. I forget the exact weight, but they were around 10-20 grams lighter then the chorus rings that were on my crank set (originally 50/34 now 50/36) and they are a LOT cheaper then replacement campy rings.

erliuic

Fixed.

Rutnick

correct me if I am wrong but the UCI limit is WITHOUT bottle cages and computer.

takes it down more if I am right.

domestique

LOL, very nice. But considering where I live (terrible pot holed, tar-chipped, cracked roads) a nice set of handbuilts is not only stiff for climbing but rolls over anything I can put it up against.

I would love a lighweight set of Carbon hoops, but until that is the only factor holding me back then I'll pass for now.

Rutnick

I have that scale and find it inaccurate....I'm using the Park Tool scale that I mount to my workstand to measure the bike weights.

Those tires are portly compared to Ultremo R. What tubes are you running? I use the Performance bike Luna Lites. 47grams I think.

bdcheung

does the scale read high or low?

I think I have the lunar lite tubes in there.

Like I said he weight goes down a bit with the 404s

domestique

47 grams for tubes is scary light, I'm not saying that is wrong but even latex tubes are not THAT light.

The lightest Butyl tubes I've seen are Conti's Supersonics at 50 some grams, and I've found them to be WAY to fragile for anything other then glass smooth TT's.

I use Michelin Butyls (for training and winter rides) and Michelin Ultra lites butyl or Michelin's Latex for races.

I've also had good luck with Kenda's ultra lights.

FWIW, I use a Alpine Ultimate scale: for large items like complete bikes, tires, etc. Not as accurate for little things as a table top scale but I am not as diseased as some weight weenies.

bikeybikebike

Come on man, we doin this or we doin this? LET'S DO THIS!!!!!

markyore

FWIW, the Lunar lites are 51g each, combine them with a set of supersonic tires which are 155g each and you can get a set of lightweight clinchers down to tubie weight, its also a cheap way to drop almost 1/2 a pound of the weight of your wheels if you have good roads esp for TTs.

domestique

IMHO, I've tried light weight tubes (conti 28 Supersonics (53 grams) and found them to be absolutely rubbish. They were paper thin and had to be delicately installed and attracted pinch flats like it was no ones business.

For a Hill climb TT I'm plan on doing this spring, I bought a pair of Veloflex Record clinchers (148 grams) and was planning on using latex tubes, but if everyone is swearing by Lunar lites then maybe I will give them a try.

patentcad

Fixed.

ninjaman

But nobody's gonna use Supersonics for everyday riding, they'll die on the first ride. If bd already has Zipps, He'd probably be racing them, and they're probably tubulars, otherwise they wouldn't be dropping the bike's weight with them on.

domestique

I say sell the Zipps to Pcad (I'm sure he could use another set to look at while typing on the computer) and get a set of Lighweights, they will be stiffer then the 404's and 150+ grams lighter!

ninjaman

If bd wont spend $250 on a fork, odds are >$5K on wheels aint happening...

erliuic

Yum.

BananaTugger

u mad

patentcad

I can only repeat the inscrutable question a Chinese customer of me asked as she took delivery on a Jaguar I sold her in 1987:

'WHY YOU SO YOUNG?'

I was 29 years old in 1987. I did not have an answer for her at the time.

BananaTugger

It happens.

bdcheung

It's on my christmas list!

gsteinb

The biggest performance booster on my bike is, well, not on my bike. It's the guy next to me.

domestique

BDcheung, why did you go with the SRM? I thought you had a powertap?

bdcheung

In a nutshell...

- I own a small business (lacrosse referee) and my bike is the only means of transportation.
- As such, many bike expenses go down as business expenses.
- Before the financial **** hit the fan, I liquidated a bunch of stock in anticipation of an economic meltdown
- A friend at Excel Sports made me a great offer on the wireless SRM
- I bought it, and subsequently will be deducting it as a business expense this year.