NYC Police Officer to be Indicted
12-17-08, 10:04 AM
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If Critical Mass is awful because it creates traffic one Friday per month, than think about how terrible Rush Hour is!
Not to mention visits to the city from heads of state, presidential motorcades, the United Nations when it's in session, every day construction, et cetera.
Haven't ridden CM in a long time, but I remember in NYC when it was a fun ride, thousands of people, with cops just eyeinng everybody warily. And ccorkinng. It's a real drag what's happened in the past four and a half years. Too many people became jerks, starting with the police violence.
By the way, the dude who was tackled by that cop has come across in everything I've read as a completely stand-up person, who's dealing with this with poise and grace.
Not to mention visits to the city from heads of state, presidential motorcades, the United Nations when it's in session, every day construction, et cetera.
Haven't ridden CM in a long time, but I remember in NYC when it was a fun ride, thousands of people, with cops just eyeinng everybody warily. And ccorkinng. It's a real drag what's happened in the past four and a half years. Too many people became jerks, starting with the police violence.
By the way, the dude who was tackled by that cop has come across in everything I've read as a completely stand-up person, who's dealing with this with poise and grace.
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12-17-08, 10:23 AM
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If Critical Mass is awful because it creates traffic one Friday per month, than think about how terrible Rush Hour is!
Not to mention visits to the city from heads of state, presidential motorcades, the United Nations when it's in session, every day construction, et cetera.
Haven't ridden CM in a long time, but I remember in NYC when it was a fun ride, thousands of people, with cops just eyeinng everybody warily. And ccorkinng. It's a real drag what's happened in the past four and a half years. Too many people became jerks, starting with the police violence.
By the way, the dude who was tackled by that cop has come across in everything I've read as a completely stand-up person, who's dealing with this with poise and grace.
Not to mention visits to the city from heads of state, presidential motorcades, the United Nations when it's in session, every day construction, et cetera.
Haven't ridden CM in a long time, but I remember in NYC when it was a fun ride, thousands of people, with cops just eyeinng everybody warily. And ccorkinng. It's a real drag what's happened in the past four and a half years. Too many people became jerks, starting with the police violence.
By the way, the dude who was tackled by that cop has come across in everything I've read as a completely stand-up person, who's dealing with this with poise and grace.
12-17-08, 10:29 AM
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Didn't you hear? CM is exactly the same as presidential/governmental motorcades, and funerals!
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12-17-08, 10:34 AM
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12-17-08, 10:42 AM
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My a-hole ratio is skewed since I know at least 1 cool cyclist and ZERO cool cops.
That leaves one side at a 100% "a-hole factor."
That leaves one side at a 100% "a-hole factor."
12-17-08, 10:49 AM
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When he blocks traffic I think the president is an a-hole as well. jesus, do any of you people work? work & commute? after a 90 minute commute in, a ten hour work day, the last thing I want is some self important a-hole cramming his agenda into my way home to my kid or my bike.
12-17-08, 03:29 PM
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So what you saw was not someone jumping to that cops defense, but calling out the red-headed liberal arts student riding around on his Orbea, indignant that the man is always harassing him. That likely trustafarian (trust fund rebel) deserved to get called out.
12-17-08, 03:40 PM
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You are remembering incorrectly. I haven't gone back to re-read the thread because I'm lazy. But what happened was that almost immediately after the thread started, there were a couple people who posted things like "I hate ****ing pigs."
So what you saw was not someone jumping to that cops defense, but calling out the red-headed liberal arts student riding around on his Orbea, indignant that the man is always harassing him. That likely trustafarian (trust fund rebel) deserved to get called out.
So what you saw was not someone jumping to that cops defense, but calling out the red-headed liberal arts student riding around on his Orbea, indignant that the man is always harassing him. That likely trustafarian (trust fund rebel) deserved to get called out.
you are partially right, but i distinctly remember people saying "the kid deserved it"
12-17-08, 03:55 PM
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12-17-08, 03:57 PM
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i said "many," not "majority"
anyway i was surprised that any people (on BF) would side with that cop... (mostly because they hate CM, but still)
anyway i was surprised that any people (on BF) would side with that cop... (mostly because they hate CM, but still)
12-17-08, 04:16 PM
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As a car free person, please take your anti-car vitriol somewhere else, like the car free forum, roadies here don't give a damn and this is not the place to spew your anti-car agenda. CM impedes everybody, not just the people in cars.
12-17-08, 04:21 PM
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i didn't say sh1t about car free, son. nor did i start this thread. go blow some bubbles or somethin.
As a car free person, please take your anti-car vitriol somewhere else, like the car free forum, roadies here don't give a damn and this is not the place to spew your anti-car agenda. CM impedes everybody, not just the people in cars.
12-17-08, 04:31 PM
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It is not up to the cop to decide if cm should take place. His job is to enforce law correctly. He did not do it. In this instance he got caught and the media got to grips with it. This is why he is why he is being lynched.
12-17-08, 04:40 PM
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12-17-08, 04:51 PM
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Thank god, it is sad to see the things people can get away with in positions of power, regardless of whether he gets convicted of anything, it is good to see that this issue was not swept under the rug. I saw the video when it first surfaced and it was completely uncalled for and unprofessional . I saw no gesture from the cop for the rider to stop, never do you see him put out a hand in a typical cop type pose and say "stop in the name of the law" he simply edges towards one of the hundreds of people riding past and decides to attack him and strong arm him off of his bicycle, not only that, but he claimed that the cyclist "charged" him and he charged the cyclist whom he assulted with, among other things, assult! Oh the irony. . These are the people put in charge of protecting us and upholding the laws and values of our country and all this fellow seems to want to do is to injure some poor innocent kid casually riding a bicycle with his friends. If I must say anything, thank god for people with cameras, if it were not for that person video taping it would have been another case of police brutality going un-checked.[B I hope this cop gets the same punishment that any man who attacks a cyclist would ge[/B]t.
12-17-08, 04:56 PM
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people are allowed to ride in the street in nyc, believe it or not. in fact, the nypd is almost always aware that the cm is going to happen, and posts officers along the route to monitor (not stop) the bikers. do you think the cops were just there randomly? there was even an nyc councilwoman (rosie mendez) that participated after nyc tried to require 50+ person permits. side note: the only reason there have been tickets is because of this new 50+ person permit law and the occasional trouble maker, not because people are riding their bikes in the street. it isn't like cm is considered a terrible crime in nyc. it's just part of the show. (notice how the biker's charges were all dropped while the cop was indicted?) what the cop did was wrong. what the biker did is at worst a nuissance, and certainly not to the level of striking someone down.
basically, the guy was riding on the steet. the worst you can nab him for is failure to have a permit. that is a ticketable offense. the cop shoved a guy down, then arrested him, then made false accusations in order to save his ass. please do not compare the two.
12-17-08, 05:49 PM
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they still aren't as cool as firefighters.
if i took online arguments seriously, that would actually mean something..
(but you're right)
CM doesn't have leaders or spokespeople. i'm just a guy on a bike, and only speak for myself. just like i don't expect anyone on BF to speak for the mainstream.
if i took online arguments seriously, that would actually mean something..
(but you're right)
If you're an ideal spokesperson for CM, no wonder people loathe them so much.
