Cdy291

I heard that Shimano's ultimate goal is to totally get rid of front shifting all together. Everyone will have a single 52 tooth ring on the front and a 14 speed 11- 34 in the rear. And they will make 14 speed work using a chain that has every other outer link missing, making it very flexible.

bostongarden

What about folks who run something other than a 52? Sounds interesting, many many years away if it were ever going to be on pro racing bikes...cabling might look odd, but, I could get used to this...although, you gotta admit you like the feeling of going into the big ring...with this system that feeling would be gone...you'd also need the ability to jump a few gears up too, say, for situations where you've just gone over the crest of a steep climb and are heading down a steep descent...

asmallsol

Is that so. Well I heard that....

CrimsonKarter21

I heard that The Corporation was secretly dosing us with a mind controlling agent, found in minute traces in common household products.

Grumpy McTrumpy

Fluoride.

nogearCX

how would that work? I mean, we have 11-Speed with Campy, but can Shimanp physically make a chainline durable enough that is thin enough to cater to an 11-34/14sp? Wheel manufacturers have already made the required industry standard changes to rear wheels with the vertical driveside spoke range...can we go any further?

Where/Who is your source?

sstorkel

If Shimano's ultimate goal is to get rid of front shifting, why the Hell did they spend so much time and money on Di2? A single ring up front and 14-cogs in the rear sounds like the kind of thing you could do pretty easily today. Especially if you were willing to accept a wider rear hub. If Campy can do 11 speeds with a "standard" freehub, it would seem to me that you could widen the rear hub to 145 or 150mm and easily fit 14 speeds...

dysFTP

They won't build it if we won't buy it.

wanders

Then they can change their name to Rohloff.

Jynx

I think rear road spacing will go to 135mm to fit more cogs at a reasonable width with a strong enough chain. How soon? No clue.

grolby

o rly?

fosmith

i remember that from back in 1998 or 1999. they already have a patent for it.

Coyote2

Son, believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.

patentcad

We did the drawings.

Flatballer

A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

patentcad

patentcad

Col Jack D. Ripper. Arguably the best film character of the past 60 years. Thank you Stanley.

Flatballer

He was a General. Just saying...

LorenzoNF

I preferred General Buck Turgidson. Much more believable and more importantly, much funnier.

patentcad

I demoted him for starting WWIII.

Flatballer

Same here. He was my favorite character. We actually watched that one night at training camp last weekend. I have an awesome team.

Sapling

Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29czSGSPE7k

patentcad

Nobody was as funny in that flick as P. Sellers.

"I'm sorry too, Dmitri. I'm very sorry...All right! You're sorrier than I am! But I am sorry as well. I am as sorry as you are Dmitri..."

But G.C. Scott's performance also takes the cake. Hell, they all do. One of the top 10 films of the 20th Century. Maybe the funniest movie ever made.

botto 

where, pray tell, did you hear that?

Psimet2001