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I hate chip seal.

Old 01-14-09, 07:21 PM
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I hate chip seal.

I don't know how many of you have to deal with chip seal on your rides, but its murder to cyclists. First of all its more effort to ride on. On a nice flat stretch of road, I strain to get to 22, where as on a regular stretch of flat road, 22 is no sweat. Secondly the vibrations one gets from riding on it get real old, real quick. I have to ride on about 80 psi if I go for more than 20 miles on chip seal. Finally, I've been very fortunate to have never bought the farm while riding on the stuff, but I can imagine it leaves you with more damage than your average spill. I hate the stuff so much, but everywhere I am, it's there too.

Sorry, just had to rant a little. I'm so tired of it. I wish that talking to the city or county would do anything at all, but I guess the damage is already done, so it would be even more pointless.
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Old 01-14-09, 07:23 PM
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WTF is chip seal
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May want to try a larger tire with a bit more sidewall.
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Originally Posted by dysFTP View Post
WTF is chip seal
A road that is tar with stones mixed in. Makes for a rough (imagine sandpaper like finish) road
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You had chipseal,you were lucky....
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I heard recently that the Texas hwy dept has heard our complaints and recently found a less nasty mix that holds up as good or better to wear and tear. Don't know if it's definite yet but in a few years the really bad stuff may be gone.
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Originally Posted by garysol1 View Post
A road that is tar with stones thrown down
we actually call it tar and chip in my neck of the woods.
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Originally Posted by dysFTP View Post
WTF is chip seal


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_seal


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It goes by many names, most of which would be ***'d out here. But I won't disagree that it would be worse without anything, I just wish they would come up with a better way of resurfacing roads.
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I hate chip seal, I doubly hate fresh chip seal. Why do they always chip seal my favorite roads? Don't they pave anymore?
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Problem with tar and chip is that just when it's actually worked its way into a smooth road surface after years of traffic, and baking in the sun, it's beginning to break down, and they come around and do it again, making it unpleasant to ride for a long time.

Absolute worst is when they have just layed it down.
Did a century once where at the 85 mile mark we came up behind the gravel truck on a descent that was laying the chip Our choice was to descend behind the gravel truck, and steam roller,on absolutely fresh tar and chip, or backtrack 35 miles.

We chose the fresh tar and chip. I was riding tubulars, and avoided flatting by the grace of god.
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[QUOTE=Creakyknees;8183007]I heard recently that the Texas hwy dept has heard our complaints and recently found a less nasty mix that holds up as good or better to wear and tear [/QUOTE

I remember living in Texas when it was spring and it was time to lay new oil on the roads. Holy crap that stuff was a mess.
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I like chipseal because everyone else hates it. If the road gets nasty, I will attack.
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Old 01-14-09, 08:06 PM
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I am learning to ride on loose sand down here in the back country of FL. there is a stretch of about 100 yards of loose sand (think dirt road) its not to bad right after a rain, but when its dry it is rough. I have found that the best thing to do is get in my 34/23 and hammer throught it at about 12mph. If you stop pedaling you slow very quickly and the front wheel turns into a rudder. If you stay above 10 mph you can keep the front tire on top, But if you hit it going to fast you will end up with a mouth full of sand.
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Most of the roads around my house are chip seal. But you gotta admit man...there's nothing like that feeling when you transition from chip seal to smooth pavement.
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i'd rather ride gravel than fresh chip & dip
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Orange County is the Chipseal Epicenter of the Known Universe. Most secondary roads here get that treatment on a revolving basis every third year, so that means in any given summer 33% of the back roads (i.e. the ones you cycle on) will be chipped and sealed between June and August. What really makes it brutal are towns that decide to save a little bit of $ by using a larger diameter stone. Most towns around here use 1/8" gravel (max diameter). Warwick uses 3/16", and the difference is amazing. You really can't ride on the Warwick roads when they are newly treated without taking your life in your hands. The other towns are OK.

In fact, Warwick's roads are so Fred Flintstone, even after they've settled down over 6+ months, that I gave up on riding in that town most of the time, at least on the back roads. The really have a sucky surface that beats you up. The surrounding townships do not. Not an issue on the main roads, but I do like to stick to the quieter routes.
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Chipseal doesn't really bother me too much, unless I'm descending in the rain. The pucker factor goes up exponentially when chipseal gets wet.
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The one thing I really hate about chip seal is the fact that it's porous. I find that glass, nails, sharp small objects, etc, tend to get into the little gaps. I really don't mind riding on it, but definitely prefer asphalt.

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Chipseal doesn't really bother me too much, unless I'm descending in the rain. The pucker factor goes up exponentially when chipseal gets wet.
I do not experience that. But of course, I am utterly fearless.
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Chipseal, what chipseal?

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Ride it every day when in Austin...no problemo...
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I ride on chip and seal daily. HTFU.
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I hate it, too, but it beats ice and snow.
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Over last summer I ran across something that was supposed to be chip seal, only I think they got the process backwards. They sprayed the oil down first then they laid down a layer of 1/4" rock.

It took about a 2 months for the gravel to migrate to the shoulder and grind in the surface... not to mention that it was dusty as hell.
It was entertaining going down one of the biggest hills in the area and hitting a nice built up ridge of loos gravel.
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