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Does anyone really make a big adjustment in clothing when temps are 5F vs. 25F

Old 01-15-09, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MDcatV View Post
good point, the 75/95 as it relates to cycling was a bad range on my part.

I thought you were old school, cover your knees <60 deg F.
For me it's <65 degrees.
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I'd be looking at adding something to your face to create a barrier to the cold. You might want to do some research on riding at those temperatures and potential lung damage.
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Originally Posted by Rob P View Post
I'd be looking at adding something to your face to create a barrier to the cold. You might want to do some research on riding at those temperatures and potential lung damage.
Lungs burn just walking around at those temps.
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Even with my ski gloves and layers, my fingers will not last longer than 45 minutes in 20 degree weather. I suppose that I would have even less time in 5 degree weather.

My upper body, leg and face (with a baclava) can handle super cold temperatures, but it's my fingers that I have to worry about.
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent View Post
15 and 35, yes. 35 is arm warmers, short sleeve jersey, and a long sleeve jersey, bibs and leg warmers. 15 is stupid.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
Two pairs of socks, thin under ski socks. Sidi Hydro GTX winter shoes. Pearl Izumi Cyclone Winter shoe covers. Chemical Toe Warmer pads.

That works. Down to 15ºF. Don't ask me if it works when it's colder, I won't ride when it's colder than 15ºF. As I am fond of recounting, I did once ride when it was 12ºF. My iPod froze. When your iPod freezes, God is telling you something boys.
Really? I rode in 18 degree weather, and my iPod was fine. The screen was a little slower to respond because of the temperature, but it worked otherwise. Technically, it should work between -20 F and 100F, or something like that.
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30 degrees is about as low as I go.. UA works just great 30 to 50...
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Between 25F and 5F, I add a fleece pullover between my jersey and jacket (Endura). Also go with Sugoi Firewall tights, and switch to lobster gloves. Put warm water in the camelback and run the tube through my jacket. If windy I may go with balaclava.
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In all seriousness (for once) I have to ask; is riding in these sub-freezing conditions worth the risk of hitting (black) ice and spending weeks/months laid up?
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Originally Posted by MrCrassic View Post
Really? I rode in 18 degree weather, and my iPod was fine. The screen was a little slower to respond because of the temperature, but it worked otherwise. Technically, it should work between -20 F and 100F, or something like that.
iPods max out at 100F? Sucks for people that want to use them in Vegas during the summer.
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Originally Posted by dysFTP View Post
In all seriousness (for once) I have to ask; is riding in these sub-freezing conditions worth the risk of hitting (black) ice and spending weeks/months laid up?
No.
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Originally Posted by dysFTP View Post
In all seriousness (for once) I have to ask; is riding in these sub-freezing conditions worth the risk of hitting (black) ice and spending weeks/months laid up?

Winter riding is not about seeing how fast you can go, slow it down a little you will see the ice. My road bike has not been of the hooks in the basement since November 1st. Get an mtb or a cross bike or both. Let the road conditions dictate what you ride. Go ride a road you would never dream about doing on you light carbon beauty. We have found a gravel road with a 16% grade on it. Go do that oil well road you have always thought about, or perhaps go ride that abandoned rail road bed you always pass by.

I know this is the road forum, and most seem to think if you’re not going 22 mph plus or turning cadence of 120 you’re not really riding. But hey were not all racers here. There will be plenty of time to see how fast you can go in the spring. But for now go ride keep your legs turning in circles stay fit.

AND I bet 2 hours on a mtb in 8 inches snow is a lot harder riding then 2 hours on smooth asphalt.
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Originally Posted by SushiJoe View Post
Lungs burn just walking around at those temps.
I didn't know that. I figured it was just with heavy breathing you'd have a problem.
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Originally Posted by dysFTP View Post
In all seriousness (for once) I have to ask; is riding in these sub-freezing conditions worth the risk of hitting (black) ice and spending weeks/months laid up?
I have studded tires. I prefer riding to work than driving, so I do what I can to keep riding all year.
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Originally Posted by Milice View Post

AND I bet 2 hours on a mtb in 8 inches snow is a lot harder riding then 2 hours on smooth asphalt.
I've been riding (on and off) for, um, 12+ years now and I've never been on a MTB. Never had the urge.
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Originally Posted by Milice View Post
Winter riding is not about seeing how fast you can go, slow it down a little you will see the ice. My road bike has not been of the hooks in the basement since November 1st. Get an mtb or a cross bike or both. Let the road conditions dictate what you ride. Go ride a road you would never dream about doing on you light carbon beauty. We have found a gravel road with a 16% grade on it. Go do that oil well road you have always thought about, or perhaps go ride that abandoned rail road bed you always pass by.

I know this is the road forum, and most seem to think if you’re not going 22 mph plus or turning cadence of 120 you’re not really riding. But hey were not all racers here. There will be plenty of time to see how fast you can go in the spring. But for now go ride keep your legs turning in circles stay fit.

AND I bet 2 hours on a mtb in 8 inches snow is a lot harder riding then 2 hours on smooth asphalt.
I do both. I love the fact that I can ride myself into the ground in the snow on my MTB for 2hrs, and cover 12 miles. Rails-to-trails in 8" of snow on the 29er = fun.

I also love the fact that I can go 62mi in a little over 2hrs in a fast race.
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Originally Posted by Rob P View Post
I didn't know that. I figured it was just with heavy breathing you'd have a problem.
I was out running errands the other day and the windchill was -29F. My lungs burned just walking.
Eff me, it was cold!
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I have ridden as low as 10 degrees during the day and 16 degrees for our night rides (the 16 degree night ride was a lot colder!)

1) Fingers
The only thing that will keep my fingers warm from the get go, in temps that cold, are these things call Bar Mitts. They look dorky, but they really work and are easy to take on and off. It is easy to get your hands in and out, easy to shift and they work while standing and pedaling. 5 out of 5 stars. I use just a medium weight glove with them that I would normally wear in 35-40 degree temps.

LINK to bar mitts site

http://barmitts.com/

I have used lobster gloves with liners and little heat packs and these bar mitts work better.

2) Toes.
Neoprene booties. And if there is room in your shoes, put one of those little toe hottie in each shoe. They cost about $1 pr.

This is really important: don't wear so many socks your shoes are too tight. It will hinder circulation in your feet and your feet will get colder.

If you plan to ride under 25 degrees regularly. Those lithium battery powered, thermostat-controlled feet warmers (they replace your shoe's insole) are pretty cool but real pricey.

3) Face: Full neoprene facemask works best. Or I have used two balaclavas and that worked too.

4) Legs: I prefer my thermal bibshorts that have a windproof front layer.

5) Trunk: thin longsleeve technical t-shirt (I use DeFeet), longsleeve midweight jersey and midweight medium cycling jacket.

Last tip: If you are riding somewhere (say to breakfast for example), where you stop for a while, if possible, bring a spare balaclava/facemask and gloves/glove liners. Even when it is this cold, if I ride hard I will sweat through my gloves and it is much more comfortable to switch to a dry set of gloves and headcovering.

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I'll add glove liners and a neck gator.
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Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1 View Post
fingers toes and

-exposed face skin-


really
that says it right there. at 5F my cycling gloves stay home and I wear mountaineering gloves, toes can handle it with two heavy wool layers, toe warmers and toe covers (held in the proper place with electrical tape) and covering face is a must on descents. Crashing and flat tires at 5F are not acceptable.
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