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Does anyone really make a big adjustment in clothing when temps are 5F vs. 25F

Old 01-15-09, 11:45 AM
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Does anyone really make a big adjustment in clothing when temps are 5F vs. 25F

Apologies in advance. The forecast temps here are nothing like what you are suffering in the MidWest. Also I don't "have" to ride in the elements for transportation. (nor would I ride in the rain)

With my layering technique, I always "thought" I would be good to the single F digits. This weekend I am actually looking forward to see the performance capabilities of my layering. (I layer up like this in 20-30F temps but of course I am riding at a pretty fast clip in a paceline)

1 Super thin UA compression fit (absolutely favorite feeling right next to skin)
2 Oakley Poly-top (another lightweight compression fit, but I like it for the neck collar and its wicking
3 Adistar LS shirt (w/silver threading which really keeps the stank down to nothing) excellent wicking
4 UA or Adidas ColdWeather LS top. (again compression fit but the material has some bulk)
5 And a mid-weight Sugoi Jacket.

As for the legs, only Castelli Bibs. (though I might pull a pair of leg warmers OVER them)

As for shoe covers, I have never used mine yet (grabbed a pair of the low priced Performance brand over NY), but was always satisfied w/toecaps and merino wool socks to 20F. But this weekend, I may get a chance to test the covers out.

Anyone else have a tried and tested method.
Ps: If I could, I would love a pair of Winter Shoes (maybe if they are on a deep discount come Spring)
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Nope...
If it's that cold, I wear the same pajamas while I sleep in...
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Old 01-15-09, 11:49 AM
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I will ride in 25F.
I will not ride in 5F.
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Originally Posted by SushiJoe View Post
I will ride in 25F.
I will not ride in 5F.
+1....20F is my cutoff....did 32 miles yesterday it was 22F.

But I suspect the biggest challenge in going to 5F is fingers and toes.
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I would just add another layer
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My clothing remains unchanged from 35F down to whatever.
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It's finally made it to 8 degress but with the wind its still below 0 so I took the day off. No my clothes dont change in that range.

BUT

To me the upper half of you body sounds way over dressed. Skip the multi layers of chemical clothing that you are wearing. Keep teh wicking layer that is next to you skin, then start thinking wool. Ever seen a cold sheep? Yes 100% Wool jerseys are expensive but you can get good ones for well under 100 bucks if you keep your eyes open. I have 2 that I wear in cold weather with a thin base layer and a wind vest over the top.

If I am going to be off road on single track i skip the wool jerseys alltogether and just wear a wool sweater or 2 purchased from the local goodwill for about 2 bucks each with the wind vest.
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
+1....20F is my cutoff....did 32 miles yesterday it was 22F.

But I suspect the biggest challenge in going to 5F is fingers and toes.
fingers toes and

-exposed face skin-


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25F is every friggin day here from Dec. 1 through April 1. 15F is DEFCON 5. F yes I make adjustments.

But that information is highly classified.

By the way, if you ride when it's 5F you are crazier than me, and that's saying something right there.
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Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1 View Post
fingers toes and
-exposed face skin-
I'll sometimes wear my cycling "ninja mask."
(balaclava)
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post

By the way, if you ride when it's 5F you are crazy-- 100% absolutely loony.
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That's a huge difference in temp. You risk frostbite on exposed skin at those temps and speeds.
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would you dress differently for 15 deg F and 35 deg F?

how about 75 deg F and 95 deg F?
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Originally Posted by Milice View Post
To me the upper half of you body sounds way over dressed. Skip the multi layers of chemical clothing that you are wearing. Keep the wicking layer that is next to you skin, then start thinking wool. I have 2 that I wear in cold weather with a thin base layer and a wind vest over the top.
I have considered the Swobo Merino Wool Jersey's you see occasionally on CLove but never ordered one.

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fingers toes and -exposed face skin- really
Surprised that I didn't think more about my face/nose. I wear a balaclava which doesn't cover my mouth/nose. And in windy temps, yeah, my nose gets a little chilled. I am not prepared for that as I don't have a facemask (nor ski goggles)

Originally Posted by SushiJoe View Post
I'll sometimes wear my cycling "ninja mask."
(balaclava)
Won't have time before the weekend, but I recall reading about a neoprene cover that covers your face. Will consider one AFTER I see how I handle this weekend. (of course I am assuming some of the other hard core riders will appear for the group ride. Some of these guys are HARD-CORE, so I assume a couple will want to ride)
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I used to ride a mtb occassionally in single digit temps. You do need to worry about frostbite. Cover your face. You need real winter gloves.

And you really need to keep your feet warm. We used neoprene socks, as well as shoe covers.

Also just a pair of bib tights isn't going to cut it for your legs, or your nuts. I had a great pair of thick wool tights with a wind proof front layer that was great for below freezing.

With mountain biking the speeds are slower so wind chill wasn't as bad. I would not ride at 5 degrees on a road bike.
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At 5 degrees I'm staying in my pajamas.
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At 5 degrees I'm staying in my pajamas.
Word. Or bundling up and going to work.
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actually fingers and toes are no longer any limiting factor

and face skin is easy...just cover it up and when real cold
on go the smith turbo fan goggles. 100% covered except the mouth
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
And you really need to keep your feet warm. We used neoprene socks, as well as shoe covers.
Two pairs of socks, thin under ski socks. Sidi Hydro GTX winter shoes. Pearl Izumi Cyclone Winter shoe covers. Chemical Toe Warmer pads.

That works. Down to 15F. Don't ask me if it works when it's colder, I won't ride when it's colder than 15F. As I am fond of recounting, I did once ride when it was 12F. My iPod froze. When your iPod freezes, God is telling you something boys.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
Two pairs of socks, thin under ski socks. Sidi Hydro GTX winter shoes. Pearl Izumi Cyclone Winter shoe covers. Chemical Toe Warmer pads.

That works. Down to 15F. Don't ask me if it works when it's colder, I won't ride when it's colder than 15F. As I am fond of recounting, I did once ride when it was 12F.
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if its 5 degrees, i don't go out side. 25 degrees i just wear a hat, underarmor, wind resistant jacket, shorts, tights, kneewarmers, booties, and gloves. last saturday when it was 13 out, i just threw on 2 extra jerseys over my underarmor then my wind resistant jacket. i was fine, except for my lips, nose, toes, and fingers.
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Yes -- even at 25 degrees, it's all about fingers and toes.
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Originally Posted by MDcatV View Post
would you dress differently for 15 deg F and 35 deg F?

how about 75 deg F and 95 deg F?
15 and 35, yes. 35 is arm warmers, short sleeve jersey, and a long sleeve jersey, bibs and leg warmers. 15 is all of the above, plus a jacket and tights.

No difference between 60 and 100+ for me.

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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent View Post
15 and 35, yes. 35 is arm warmers, short sleeve jersey, and a long sleeve jersey. Bibs and leg warmers. 15 is all of the above, plus a jacket and tights.

No difference between 60 and 100+ for me.

good point, the 75/95 as it relates to cycling was a bad range on my part.

I thought you were old school, cover your knees <60 deg F.
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