markwebb

I helped my bro' in law buy a cool Serotta on eBay. It's a Ti-carbon frame built with Campy 10sp Record carbon components. He received it last week and we assembled it. Man - I had no idea Campy Record was that good. It is sooooooo smooth. Easily shifts up and down in back and front.

Smooth as buttah.

Comparing it to my Shimano DA build on my Seven, well, my Shimano is just clunky compared to the Record. There is no comparison - the Campy blows the DA away.

Now...if only I can find like $3,000 and buy the Campy Record group and new wheels

briscoelab

Dude, just get some Record from the shops in the UK. You can get it for about $1200. Then get a new free hub body for your current wheels and you're set

Ames

Got my new P1 with Campy and LBS and me was impressed over the others. It is the best group anywhere and they get paid for it Will buy again.

BananaTugger

Pretty much.

Creakyknees

Shhh!!!!!!

johnybutts

my DA7900 is badass too... but i dont make threads about it, i just ride it

wideAMG

amen.

markwebb

I posted this because I'd never had opportunity to try both side-by-side. I can say without reservation that Record does indeed blow away and eat the DA.

Someone posted you can get Campy Record 10spd group for $1,200. Anyone care to share a vendor that sells the group for $1,200?? Post a link??

botto 

Flatballer

So this was a brand new, perfectly tuned Record, against a DA that you've probably put thousands of miles on and haven't adjusted in months?

Yeah, totally fair comparison. Add to that the fact that you were already expecting the Record to be great, and you've got a recipe for a pretty bad scientific test.

My 9 speed DA shifts perfectly in the back and so well in the front that I have to check if it made the shift sometimes because I never heard/felt it. I don't see how Record could be much better.

DaveSSS 

I'm a Campy-only guy since 1995, but I wouldn't claim that Record shifts better than DA. Most who have owned or tested both when properly adjusted still think that DA shifts "smoother", which is not a very precise description. I expect both shift quite well. It's SRAM that most often gets slammed for clunky shifting, but I've not tried either one to comment. I still prefer the Campy thumb button shifters that are cheap to buy and repairable. The 2009 models are totally redesigned to eliminate the most common wear item (g-springs). The new shifters are supposed to go far longer before any maintenance is required. I've already had them apart to look at and found them much simpler to work on.

Most people don't get an opportunity to really try Campy because most shops carry little or none of it and if they do, they often charge far more for it. I shop online and manage to to get comparable components without paying more. As an example, I've bought 2009 Chorus shifters for $210 and Record for $240. Try to find the DA 7900 shifters for that price.

Campy chains last far longer and their thicker 10 speed cogs should too. The new 11 speed cogs are now the same 1.6mm thickness as Shimano. Resale of Campy parts is also quite good. I sold a pair of Record brakes and a Record RD from 2003 for about half what I paid for them. Each lasted about 5 minutes on E-bay before they were bought at my buy it now price of $95. I got 6 seasons from those items, so the cost of ownership was low.

SushiJoe

I've also found it extraordinarily easy to sell Campy stuff. I'm thinking I'd really like some new Chorus 11 stuff for the Seven one of these days, but it's completely unnecessary to upgrade and even I can't justify the purchase right now. (And that's saying something!)

monporn

i've used campagnolo less times this century than i have fingers on my left hand. i do not regret it. shimano is great. not that i ever noticed anything odd about the campagnolo bits and pieces, just that shimano were always available at no cost...
i have always enjoyed the looks of the record set though...
perhaps now it is time to try SRAM?

SushiJoe

Make the leap!

rousseau

In other breaking news, this just in: the earth is round, and orbits the sun.

erliuic

I don't know about slammed...the "clunky" rear shifting was the reason I bought it.

You're right about price...it's pretty much a nonissue if you use a groupset for multiple seasons.

SushiJoe

Has a nice, positive "crack!" to it. I like it.

sfcrossrider

I've used both DA, and Record (more Record) extensively in the last twenty years (7, 8, 9, and 10 speed) and find very little difference beyond perception, and cost to replace crashed parts.

If it shifts into the gear I need, when I need it during a race... I'm stoked.

cuski

www.ribblecycles.co.uk

An incredible price of $1,182.26. Since that puts you over the threshold, it also means free shipping. Go for it.

kudude

blasphemy

Cue

Indeed. I've owned 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 speed bikes. It's mostly perception. The newer stuff is usually just shinier.

JeffS

Maybe... as long as you're not too attached to shifting from the drops.

SushiJoe

I've got medium-sized hands and have neverhave a problem shifting Campy in the drops.
This "issue" some folks have remains a mystery to me.

kudude

I'm no fanboi, but shifting campy from the drops is trivial. Shifting sora from the drops is another story.

SushiJoe

Read: feat of amazing dexterity and flexibility.