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Road Cycling It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle. -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 02-23-14, 09:45 AM   #11626
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Getting these Williams 38 carbon clinchers for the new bike. The wheels will be here tomorrow and hopefully the bike this week( been a 4 week wait so far on the bike)
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Old 02-23-14, 10:02 AM   #11627
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The above is a common misconception in regard to brakes. You cannot tell a caliper's braking power based on feel. The aftermarket stuff certainly looks cool, but when it comes to function, it's really tough to beat Shimano calipers.
ok, say it how you will then. Maybe I couldn't tell the braking POWER, but the overall feel was similar as long as I had them adjusted close to the braking surface. any difference or lack of was completely worth the weight savings for me.
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Old 02-23-14, 10:12 AM   #11628
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That's cool, everyone is different. I personally am not willing to compromise function for weight anywhere on my bikes and especially when it comes to my brakes.
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I have different brakes on all of my bikes...I honestly can't say any are better at stopping my bike than the other. Hmm, now I need to go do some testing.
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That's cool, everyone is different. I personally am not willing to compromise function for weight anywhere on my bikes and especially when it comes to my brakes.
I don't care about the weight. I like the design, they weren't way more expensive than the Campy brakes I was considering, and folks that have them say good things about them.

I don't think I'm compromising here.
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Old 02-23-14, 05:45 PM   #11631
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I don't care about the weight. I like the design, they weren't way more expensive than the Campy brakes I was considering, and folks that have them say good things about them.

I don't think I'm compromising here.
Its not really a compromise the work great, on par with a set of 105 5700 brakes I had and really work well. And the fact that they really look good is a plus. Had I not switched over to Ultegra on my aluminum bike, I would still have them. I went through a everything must go with the theme phase and for no real good reason replaced them. I did not like the plastic nut provided to mount them to the frame and fork but other than that a great brake set for sure.
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Old 02-23-14, 08:45 PM   #11632
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I have different brakes on all of my bikes...I honestly can't say any are better at stopping my bike than the other. Hmm, now I need to go do some testing.
I like the 105 brakes a lot more than the Tektro brakes that I had. But could be Tetro brake pads are worthless compared to the Shimano pads.

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ok, say it how you will then. Maybe I couldn't tell the braking POWER, but the overall feel was similar as long as I had them adjusted close to the braking surface. any difference or lack of was completely worth the weight savings for me.
There are much better places to cut weight on a bike than the brakes.

Dumping those carbon wheels would drop even more weight, and improve your braking.
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There are much better places to cut weight on a bike than the brakes.

Dumping those carbon wheels would drop even more weight, and improve your braking.
If you sell the enve's, let me know!
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There are much better places to cut weight on a bike than the brakes.

Dumping those carbon wheels would drop even more weight, and improve your braking.
I'll add that to the "signs of the apocalypse" list.
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There are much better places to cut weight on a bike than the brakes.

Dumping those carbon wheels would drop even more weight, and improve your braking.
I have yet to have a scare with my brakes. lol, not selling my wheels
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I have yet to have a scare with my brakes. lol, not selling my wheels
It only takes one "scare" to become a statistic.


I am only joking around, but saving weight at the expense of braking is a choice I'll never make.

Honestly I don't see how you can sleep at night, knowing you could drop almost 300g by dumping those boat anchors that you call a "wheelset".

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It only takes one "scare" to become a statistic.


I am only joking around, but saving weight at the expense of braking is a choice I'll never make.
Yeah but, as far as I can tell, you're operating under one of two assumptions: 1) when it comes to braking, more is always better or 2) the performance of this specific brake set doesn't reach the point where anything better is irrelevant. I don't think that either of those is a safe assumption, so who am I to criticize other for their choice?
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Yeah but, as far as I can tell, you're operating under one of two assumptions: 1) when it comes to braking, more is always better or 2) the performance of this specific brake set doesn't reach the point where anything better is irrelevant. I don't think that either of those is a safe assumption, so who am I to criticize other for their choice?
If these work as well as my Zero Gravity brakes worked on my old TT bike, there's not a chance in hell that I'd use them.

Btw, I'm not criticizing anyone for their choice.
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Btw, I'm not criticizing anyone for their choice.
Insinuating that their choice may result in their death seems like pretty sharp criticism to me -

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Insinuating that their choice may result in their death seems like pretty sharp criticism to me -
Did you have a chance to read the next sentence? I think I clearly pointed out that I was only joking.

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It only takes one "scare" to become a statistic.


I am only joking around, but saving weight at the expense of braking is a choice I'll never make.

Honestly I don't see how you can sleep at night, knowing you could drop almost 300g by dumping those boat anchors that you call a "wheelset".
Lol trust me, I have thought about the weight of the wheels, but I like them to much to make the exception.
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Did you have a chance to read the next sentence? I think I clearly pointed out that I was only joking.

but: conjunction - used to introduce something contrasting with what has already been mentioned

Yeah, I did read the next sentence, wherein you said "I'm only joking around, but [really, I'm not]."



It's cool though. Moving on.
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