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Do you include your stopped time?

Old 02-16-09, 03:11 PM
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Do you include your stopped time?

So, I just rode my first Century on Saturday (Tour de Palm Springs) and had a question about how people tend to think about time on and off the bike during an event like this.

I took my GPS, which calculates moving time and stopped time. My moving total was 7.5 hours, but I had a little over 2 hours of stopped time, for 9.5 hours total. This stopped time included five SAG stops and two flat tires by my riding buddy, waiting while he replaced the tube the first time, and then waiting for a support vehicle the second time.

So, when I got back to calculate my route stats, I debated whether to put in 9.5 hours or 7.5 hours. How do you all think about your route times when there's substantial stoppage involved?
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Originally Posted by cheeken View Post
So, I just r My moving total was 7.5 hours, but I had a little over 2 hours of stopped time, for 9.5 hours total.
Then you didn't do a century; you did several rides on the same day that totaled 100 miles or more. Stopping at lights and for a brief pee break is OK, but if you stop for any kind of rest/food break you've broken the ride up and it does not count as a century. Sorry.
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Old 02-16-09, 03:26 PM
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If someone says "How long did it take you?", it's "9.5 hours".

If someone asks "What was your average speed?", it's whatever the thingy shows, which is based on 7.5 hours.
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you rode a 100 miles and that is a century. now, for recording purposes you use both numbers, ride time and total time. things like average speed are calculated off ride time by most folks. next time out maybe you have a goal to shorten up both. later.
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Originally Posted by cheeken View Post
So, when I got back to calculate my route stats
For what purpose?
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Old 02-16-09, 03:28 PM
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Congratulations on your first century, ignore the noise. How you time it is up to you, not anyone else's idea of correct. Both numbers are useful for gauging performance, so track both and see what happens. My first century almost killed me, now they're fun training rides, so keep at it.
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Old 02-16-09, 03:29 PM
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Conceprtualize it anyway you want, or anyway that meaningful to you, because that's all that really matters.

However, if your goal is draw comparisons to others, the only logical way to do it is by total time, not riding time.
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2 hours is a long to be stopped. But I suppose support vehicles can take some time when it is not a race! Good job anyhow!
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Yes, you did do a century ... you can stop for breaks during a century, just not long breaks (i.e. sleep). A century is 100 miles in one day.

However, when you report your time for the century, you've got to include total time. So in your case, your century took you 9.5 hours.

If you said you did it in 7.5 hours you would diminish the accomplishment of those who could do their centuries in 7.5 hours, including all breaks.
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Elapsed time from start to finish.
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Originally Posted by BustaQuad View Post
Then you didn't do a century; you did several rides on the same day that totaled 100 miles or more. Stopping at lights and for a brief pee break is OK, but if you stop for any kind of rest/food break you've broken the ride up and it does not count as a century. Sorry.
What a remarkably stupid comment.
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Old 02-16-09, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by waytoomanybikes View Post
What a remarkably stupid comment.
You beat me to it.
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Originally Posted by waytoomanybikes View Post
What a remarkably stupid comment.
Sorry, but facts are stubborn things. And Lance would agree with my comment.
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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
A century is 100 miles in one day.
So, if I get up, go out and do 50 miles, come home, shower, eat, sleep for 12 hours, get up, eat and go out and do another 50 miles I've done a century? I don't think so...
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Originally Posted by BustaQuad View Post
So, if I get up, go out and do 50 miles, come home, shower, eat, sleep for 12 hours, get up, eat and go out and do another 50 miles I've done a century? I don't think so...
How about you quote my whole paragraph instead of just part of it ................ Troll.
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To the OP: Congrats on your ride. You set out to do something and did it. AWESOME!

As for the rest of you I don't give a flying flip about how you define century rides.
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Originally Posted by BustaQuad View Post
Sorry, but facts are stubborn things. And Lance would agree with my comment.
I think Lance would agree with what everyone else is thinking about your comments.

cheeken, congrats on your first century, in 9.5 hrs.
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Old 02-16-09, 05:01 PM
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Thanks for everyone's thoughts.

Matchka's comment about diminishing the times of those who do the whole thing in 7.5 hours makes sense to me, so, I guess my future time to beat will be 9.5 hours.

One thing about BustaQuad's initial comment about it being a series of smaller rides: it seems a bit arbitrary that you don't have to count stop lights and pee breaks, but you do have to count SAG stops and flat tires. Pretty convenient that you get to decide that I didn't ride a century. If you're demanding the letter of the law, rather than the spirit, it seems that you wouldn't be able to count pee breaks or stop lights longer than 45 seconds.

Perhaps BustaQuad measures his centuries in heartrate, and does jumping jacks while he pees to keep his HR up?
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Usually I blow right through the space-time continuum when I ride a Century. Therefore, time and space are meaningless concepts for me.

What should matter for everyone, Grasshopper, is neither the time nor the distance. What should matter is the journey itself, whether the souvenir socks fit, and learning if we're strong enough for some celebratory sex the after the ride night.
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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
How about you quote my whole paragraph instead of just part of it ................ Troll.
OK - fair enough.

"you can stop for breaks during a century, just not long breaks (i.e. sleep)."

The OP stopped for 2 hours and his century counts. If I stop for one hour, but sleep during that hour, my century doesn't count?

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Old 02-16-09, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by icyclist View Post
What should matter for everyone, Grasshopper, is neither the time nor the distance. What should matter is the journey itself, whether the souvenir socks fit, and learning if we're strong enough for some celebratory sex the after the ride night.
You know, icyclist, you make a good point, actually. I was thinking last night about this journey of which you speak. A little over a year ago, I started cycling. Now, a year later, almost 50 pounds lighter, and done with my first century, I actually feel amazing about the journey to this point.

[stop reading now if you don't want to read lots of sappy chubby-youth stuff]

I was always the chubby musical kid (my older brother had the sports genes). In fact, in elementary school, when I'd try to play basketball during recess, the better kids would explain to me that I was only allowed to rebound the ball for them, and then throw it back so they could practice shooting. This was the beginning of a long career of disinterest and general suckitude at any-and-all-sports.

Then, yesterday I picked up a magazine I had received and there was a section that started out something about 'training for athletes,' and it was about essentially cross-training, building base miles (running and cycling), and that kind of thing. And this weird thought passed through my head: For the first time in my life, I feel like an athlete.

Perhaps an odd designation, I know, and certainly still debatable , but a very new feeling nonetheless. So, icyclist, even though perhaps your point was made in jest (in absolutely no way was I able to have any kind of sexual experience after the ride), it really is the journey that this whole thing represents. Honestly, thanks for putting it in those terms. And may all your future souvenir socks fit perfectly.
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Originally Posted by BustaQuad View Post
OK - fair enough. The OP stopped for 2 hours and his century counts. If I stop for one hour, but sleep during that hour, my century doesn't count?
no, no naps are allowed.
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Originally Posted by BustaQuad View Post
OK - fair enough. The OP stopped for 2 hours and his century counts. If I stop for one hour, but sleep during that hour, my century doesn't count?
Your ability to either misunderstand or altogether ignore context is completely amazing to me. I mean, I'm utterly stupefied by this comment.
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Originally Posted by cheeken View Post
Your ability to either misunderstand or altogether ignore context is completely amazing to me. I mean, I'm utterly stupefied by this comment.
I'm not.

welcome to the road forum

congrats on the ride!
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Originally Posted by slim_77 View Post
no, no naps are allowed.
I can't see why this is necessarily the case. I actually got sick and did take a nap in the middle of a ride once. It never occurred to me not to count it. I doubt it occurred to a the people who finished behind me (none of whom napped) that either of our rides don't count.

Otherwise, we may as not count rides where a train stops you for 20 min....
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