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Old 02-24-09, 08:40 AM
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Definitely get a front brake.

Anybody who has ridden a road bike very much has had an incident where they had to make a panic stop, and if there stopping distance was a few feet more there would have been a very bad outcome.

Significant majority of braking force comes from the front wheel. Even if you've perfected the technique of locking the back wheel, it is physically impossible to stop in as short of distance, as you can on bike where you can brake the front and back wheel.

So think about your last panic stop, and what the outcome might have been if you're braking distance would have been 10 more feet.

Or put another way, do you want to die simply for a fashion statement?
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Old 02-24-09, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by -=Łem in Pa=-
If you have a 80" drive to take advantage of the flats here, you will not be keeping up
with the stop and go traffic. If you go 65" or so, you'll spin out at 22mph.
That's why I go with ~75"...it's a good compromise around here (Raleigh, N.C.)
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got contrarian

Sheldon quoted Henri Desgrange, “triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailleur” then wrote, “High-cadence pedaling improves the suppleness…” https://www.sheldonbrown.com/fixed.html

As for me, I haven't seen supple. Anyone supple?
I like supple, just haven't seen it. What does supple look like?
I’m not supple or hip but I am contrarian. All fixie riders are contrarian.
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Old 02-24-09, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by -=Łem in Pa=-
My observations respectfully offered after a year of commuting on my beloved
Kilo TT, year 'round, in the hills of Vermont, the Killington ski area..........

1) In snow...fabulous you get some mad control.

2) Hills going up, no problem. Only had to walk twice, 44x17.
But , going down was absolutely painful. In my situation, 2 miles or so of downhills at
1/5 the speed you could be going on a freewheeler was a painful exercise in futility.

3) There is no way a fixer would be a good commuting unit in a urban area such
as where I live now. Too much stopping and dodging the worst/angriest drivers in the country.
If you have a 80" drive to take advantage of the flats here, you will not be keeping up
with the stop and go traffic. If you go 65" or so, you'll spin out at 22mph.

4) I disagree with the notion a fixie helps your spin. To me, its just the opposite.
A fixie sort of makes it own momentum just by going forward. Its easier to ride
long distances. If anything, you relax. It will get you in the habit of pedaling all
the time though....

Just one persons observations Ill get another one when I get into a better living
situation.
Your observations seem to be pretty accurate and one always has to factor in where they live andwhat they face on a daily basis.

I should always post a YMMV disclaimer in that I am a bit of a freak in that I am a professional messenger and typically ride about 10,000 miles per year, hit the curb at a lean 140, and have a thing for hills. If I choose I can can choose pretty flattish routes through the city and if I am adventurous I can get in 1000's of feet of climbing by riding through our river valley.

I used to run 81 gear inches on my fixed road bike and would stun people when I could match and even beat them on the flats, climbs, and descents... but that just stems from riding more than your average bear, riding harder, and by being able to spin those cranks at ludicrous speeds.

This high gearing was also good for keeping up with traffic on roads with a 30-35 mph speed limit as even though pinning it at 35 for any distance is something I can't do being able to roll in the high 20's keeps you in a better place.

When you do descents at speeds of 40 mph (with 81 gear inches) your legs will be spinning those cranks at roughly 160 rpm and this is where perfect technique and a perfect setup shows itself as poor technique / setup will wreck you....with a brake you can also control your descent speed and save the legs for the next climb.

I reduced my gearing to 75 and like that better as even though I spin a little more my acceleration is better, slowing / stopping sans brake is easier (and I do run a brake), and for the most part my adventures are urban and although the hills here can be steep they are usually blessedly short.

Riding long distances on a fixed gear is something everyone should try as it is actually very pleasant if your gearing matches the road and conditions and I always feel better after a fixed century than I do after a geared one. This is where a flip flop with a double fixed setup is really nice.

In winter a fixed gear is the ideal bike.
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The OP still hasn't said how good he looks in girl pants.

That's the tipping point.
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Old 02-24-09, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DataJunkie
You can't flip it to a SS without brakes. Well you could but the results would be interesting.
I would ignore anything and everything hipsters have to say about .... well .... everything.
WTF was a hipster doing in a spin class?
SS without brakes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH5W1Z23wPg

Yeah...it looks like a really bad idea.
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Old 02-24-09, 06:22 PM
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this is easy....go down hill then go up hill...repeat
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Old 02-24-09, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by captnfantastic
talk me out of it?
Do a search "pants caught in chainring" on the fixed gear singlespeed forum.
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Originally Posted by bubbagrannygear
Do a search "pants caught in chainring" on the fixed gear singlespeed forum.
well good thing because of this thread I already took in the seams of all my jeans so they fit snugly to my less-than-perfect-physique and cut all my t's into V necks. But I can't get myself to stop shaving my legs... I guess my true roadie will always show through no matter how hipster I become.
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Old 02-24-09, 11:40 PM
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^That makes two of us have you narrow down your model/brand choice?
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Old 02-25-09, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkSLC
https://www.rapha.cc/index.php?page=169

A bit hip for some, but it's a comfortable way to ride without gearing up. Riding in casual wear sucks after about 20 minutes, and when I'm off my bike in my gear, I feel like I need a towel or an adult.
Why is the guy in the bottom two pics under the tab "Performance" riding a bike without a front wheel? I don't get it.
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Old 02-25-09, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by weavers
try using your current bike as a fixie. just stay in one gear all the time, say 50-19 or something similar.(alot of fixies use 47-17, you can find something simlar) i tired doing this for a week on my daily commute. i thought a fixie would be great, cause it would be lighter, less chain wear, and maitence. problem was start from traffic lights and once i was at a decent speed i really couldn't go any faster. i hated having my speed caped at 22mph and the worst part is tired dead legs and not being able to use granny gears. even for a short 5mile or 12mile commute it sucked day in and day out. just to much crap to put up with.
That works if you want to see what owning a single speed is like. There is no way to simulate riding fixed unless you.. surprise, are on a bike with a fixed gear.

Technique/skill/fun of Singlespeed vs. Fixed = Apples vs. Oranges in my opinion. You may prefer one or the other but they are definitely not the same.
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Old 02-25-09, 06:14 AM
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Old 02-25-09, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by schnee
The OP still hasn't said how good he looks in girl pants.

That's the tipping point.
Hipsters haven't worn girl pants for at least 4 years. You're living under a rock.
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Originally Posted by FiveThirteen
Why is the guy in the bottom two pics under the tab "Performance" riding a bike without a front wheel? I don't get it.
It's hooked up to a trainer. We have sprint races on them, usually at a bar. Nothing like getting loaded and getting winded.
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Originally Posted by Exit.
Hipsters haven't worn girl pants for at least 4 years. You're living under a rock.
That's because the clothing companies caught on and started making guys jeans fit like thermal underwear.
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Originally Posted by spinerguy
^That makes two of us have you narrow down your model/brand choice?
fuji track. simple and if it gets stolen at school I won't be out a grand.
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Old 02-25-09, 06:10 PM
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make sure you budget for skinny jeans and hair products
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Originally Posted by Exit.
Hipsters haven't worn girl pants for at least 4 years. You're living under a rock.
You haven't been to the San Francisco area lately, have ya.
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Old 02-25-09, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by captnfantastic
fuji track. simple and if it gets stolen at school I won't be out a grand.
Try Bike Island....see what they have there (I cant believe I recommended a BD site)
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Originally Posted by Exit.
Hipsters haven't worn girl pants for at least 4 years. You're living under a rock.
I guess that rock is big enough to cover all of San Diego.
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Originally Posted by Exit.
Hipsters haven't worn girl pants for at least 4 years. You're living under a rock.
girl pants no. skinny jeans yes. with converse high tops
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