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Old 03-18-09, 12:11 PM
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I patch them until I get a puncture in or near another patch.
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Old 03-18-09, 12:20 PM
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24 pack of patch kits for the long-hauler: http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...atch+Kits.aspx
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Old 03-18-09, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by divecon2k4 View Post
New tubes on the bike patched tubes in the seat bag as spares.
I'm exactly the opposite. I like my spare tube to be fresh and new. I find I can compress a new tube into a much smaller package, and therefore it's more easily manageable, compared to a used tube.
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Old 03-18-09, 01:00 PM
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Absolutely no reason not to patch a flat tube. I'm not sure where some people get the idea that a patched tube can't be trusted. I've got multiple patches in each of my mounted tubes right now, get fewer flats than anyone I know (knocking on wood), and frequently hit 45-50 on the road.

The tube isn't going to 'exploslively fail' unless the tire does, in which case a new tube will fail just as quickly. The tube is simply an air barrier, nothing more. If it holds air, than it's doing it's job. There's no "my tubes hold air better than your tubes because mine are unmolested" here. Still I frequently run into people who toss tubes, and I will offer to take them after on the road flat's if I know they'll be canned when they get home.

Oh, and I don't use any special type of patch. Just the standard ones in the plastic boxes at the LBS. Roughen the surface with sandpaper, apply larger than necessary but thin layer of glue, wait like 10 minutes and then apply the patch centered on the puncture. And done. Most of the time you spend waiting for the glue to dry. Once the patch is applied and massaged a bit, it can be remounted and reinflated immediately. Those of you who have said that this is not rocket science...may be onto something.

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Old 03-18-09, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MKahrl View Post
As for the adhesive compound, empty the whole tube into a paper bag and huff it.
fixed!
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Originally Posted by ted ward View Post
24 pack of patch kits for the long-hauler: http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...atch+Kits.aspx


I think I use a lot of patches at about 2 boxes per year. That would make a 12 year supply....
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Old 03-18-09, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cccorlew View Post
Patch until I can't patch any more. Big rip, or near the stem I toss 'em.
I kinda like seeing a well patched tube. It makes me smile.
My wife makes fun of me when I get to around 25...or if I patch over another patch Otherwise, I patch until the tube is too thick to put in the tire
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Old 04-18-09, 05:02 PM
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New tube- $5, patch kit- $4, and can fix about a dozen flats.. seems like a no brainer.
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Old 04-18-09, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by borg View Post
I seem to be the minority, but I just pitch them. I want nothing to do with patched tubes. I stock up on tubes during sales, so at $3-4 a tube, it doesn't make sense to me to chance riding with a patched tube. It is also hardly seems worth the effort.
$3-4 a tube is not a sale.
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Old 04-18-09, 07:26 PM
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Patch, patch, patch, patch, patch, patch, patch, patch, patch, patch, patch, patch, pitch.
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Old 04-18-09, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by nebrider View Post
$3-4 a tube is not a sale.
Depends on the tube...
Michelin or Conti tubes at that price seems like a sale to me.
Then again Walmart sells regular ones for <$4 and they get the job done
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I'm with the 'patch until the tube is unrepairable' crowd. Usually wait until I have 4 or 5 punctured tubes and then do them together since getting things ready and waiting for the glue to dry take the most time. Only takes about 10 minutes to fix 4 tubes and costs ~ $1 for the patches. So if tubes are $3 each you've effectively earned $11 in a sixth of an hour or $66/hr - and it's non-taxable. And I usually do it during commercial breaks or while net-surfing so it wouldn't have been productive time otherwise.
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Old 04-19-09, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BustaQuad View Post
I've never had a patch fail. I'm pretty sure that a (properly installed) patch, like a weld, is stronger than the original material around it.
You are a better man than me. I have about a 50% failure rate for patches. I have tried every cleaning and gluing technique, known and unknown. I have sanded tubes on several occasions to the point of ruin by wearing through the rubber, cleaned with various solvents, ignited the glue, used contact cement, glueless patches, etc, etc - nothing seems to help.

I can build a wheel just fine, patching a tube is a talent I don't possess. I never carry a patched tube as a spare. I put the patched tubes on the bike right away and let them sit overnight to check to see if they hold by any chance or put them in a spare wheel for a while.
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Old 04-19-09, 10:04 AM
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never had one fail. never had one rip. never had one loosen. i have a tube with seven patches, and it still makes it a few months each time before it goes again.
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Old 04-19-09, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tubescreamerx View Post
These are great. I have a pack with me on all rides, and patching a tube using them has never taken more than 2 minutes. Oh, and none of them have ever leaked or broken.
I never had any luck with patch kids before I bought those! I used to just chuck the tubes whenever I got a flat no matter how small the puncture. Now that I've been using those I trust patches again. I still have two brand new tubes in my saddle bag, and I plan on those being the last tubes I buy for a very long time (although I'll probably end up buying more of those patch kits, I used three patches the first day I got them! )
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Old 04-19-09, 03:21 PM
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The Specialized patches are paper thin and with self adhesive. It takes 20 seconds to abrade with the included sandpaper and 20 more seconds to put on the patch and there is no gluey mess. Maybe it takes 5 minutes to locate the puncture so this is so simple.

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