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How much are you in the drops?

Old 03-04-09, 02:21 PM
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How much are you in the drops?

For me, it all the time. If I'm going more that about 12mph I'm in the hooks, even when I'm not racing. I told my fitter this and he seemed really surprised. He said "then lets take out a spacer or two" then looked at my stem and realized it couldn't be done cause they are already all gone. Is this really that strange that i find the drops comfortable? My drop from the saddle to the top of the bars is 6.5 cm.
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Originally Posted by leakysieve View Post
For me, it all the time. If I'm going more that about 12mph I'm in the hooks, even when I'm not racing. I told my fitter this and he seemed really surprised. He said "then lets take out a spacer or two" then looked at my stem and realized it couldn't be done cause they are already all gone. Is this really that strange that i find the drops comfortable? My drop from the saddle to the top of the bars is 6.5 cm.
If you are really comfortable on the drops then you probably aren't very aero. Your drop sounds like about half of what it should be, unless you are on a tiny frame. I ride a 54 and run about 13 cm drop.
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Old 03-04-09, 02:25 PM
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I like the drops too.
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Old 03-04-09, 02:27 PM
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about 50:50 I think. On my converted hybrid I am always in the drops as I have randonneur bars which mean the hoods aren't that comfortable, on my road bike I often stay on the hoods a lot but when the wind picks up, or I want to get my speed on I get in the drops.
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Old 03-04-09, 02:30 PM
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Im awkwardly in between a 54 and a 56. Im running a 130 stem on a 56, the 54, was just too small. When i get down into a full aero tuck I loose a little comfort but I can still chill there for a good 15 minuets.
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Originally Posted by leakysieve View Post
For me, it all the time. If I'm going more that about 12mph I'm in the hooks, even when I'm not racing. I told my fitter this and he seemed really surprised. He said "then lets take out a spacer or two" then looked at my stem and realized it couldn't be done cause they are already all gone. Is this really that strange that i find the drops comfortable? My drop from the saddle to the top of the bars is 6.5 cm.

For a racing setup 2 1/2" of drop is not that much, which would explain why you find riding in the drops comfortable.

Knowing no other measurements, and no pics, I question whether your frame is on the big side for you if you can't get enough drop with the stem flipped down and no spacers.

How well does the bike fit you otherwise?
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Ok, this is not adding up. Going to a size up and still having to run a 130mm stem to fit isn't computing. You may have some unusual measurements.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
How well does the bike fit you otherwise?
The fit is very good. Other than a 55 would be perfect. I don't have any pics of me on the bike (plus this instantly becomes a "fit" thread if I put those up), but I do have one of the bike, pre-spacer removal. I have the saddle set so my knees are in front of the pedal axle a tad. I have the reach of a 6'2" man. I'm 5'10". Is that what you mean by unusual?

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Originally Posted by leakysieve View Post
. I have the reach of a 6'2" man. I'm 5'10". Is that what you mean by unusual?
Yes. The extra reach is necessitating the 56cm frame (given that you aren't really many options for a stem past 130mm), which in turn is limiting the amount of drop you can get.

Of course if you want to be lower, just bend your elbows.
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If anyone says they ride in the drops all the time then their bars are too high. If you are already in the drops, and you want to be more aggressive or aerodynamic for a shorrt period of time (say, for example, an hour long crit), then where would you go? Assuming of course you were already bending your elbows.

I have an agressive bar position, I can get very low on the hoods (wtf are hooks?), and comfortable have a completely flat back in the drops. But for training and riding around, speed is less important than effort and I prefer to generally stay on the hoods.
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racing - almost all of the time.

training - when i'm in the wind, always. otherwise, depends.
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Old 03-04-09, 03:08 PM
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I ride in the drops about 50% of the time in training. In races, mostly just for corners and when I'm at or off the front.

There's no reason the drops can't be comfortable with a steep saddle/bar drop if you're flexible and keep the power up. My drop is around 18cm, which leaves my back completely horizontal.

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leakysieve, where did you get fit? I may want to do that for real some day.
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I find drops really uncomfortable and I mainly use them in descents.
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Riding: rarely
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leakysieve, where did you get fit? I may want to do that for real some day.
I didn't get fit in B-ham. I couldn't find anybody who is an actual certified fitter. Funny thing is when i hopped on the bike and started pedaling the fitter asked me a few questions, walked around me a few times, then said "Looks like you know what you are doing, nothing I can really do for you." He didn't even charge me.
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Riding: rarely
Intervals : often
Racing: As much as possible
Crits, almost always. Road races, depends on what's going on. It is really a question of the relative intensity of the effort and the effects of aerodynamics. Hiding in a pack or not going very hard make an aggressive position less important and I'll often sit up and relax. For my crit on Sunday I only cared about protecting my GC position and cruised around on the hoods until about 3 laps to go.
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Not all that much myself, unless heading into the wind or trying to go fast. Sometimes just for a change in position.
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I added drop bar ends to my MTB for commuting (stop cringing) and surprisingly found I was in the drops for most of my 34 mile round trip. I am now adding them to my hybrid for the same purpose. Yes, I do have a road bike too, but it is old and I'll replace it soon enough. I did use the upright bar ends but hardly at all. When you have somewhere to go, the drops is the place to be. BTW: I thought I would hate not having brake levers at my finger tips, but you know, when you're moving - you brake less. Brakes are counter productive to cycling.
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Probably 35% of the time now that i switched to compact bars. I'm not very flexible so the really deep bars i had before sucked. plus they were too wide for me. I still need to dial in my brake lever placement so that descending won't be so scary
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Saying you ride in the drops all the time does not get you brownie points. It just gets an opinion that you're not riding your bike the way road bike riding was intended to be. You should have your bike and position setup such that you have a good, efficient position when riding on the corners and/or hoods, and then you have the drops available for those unusual headwinds or for bursts of power (when needed for whatever reason). It just doesn't make any sense to ride in the drops most of the time.
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Wow that is hideous.
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Originally Posted by Longfemur View Post
It just doesn't make any sense to ride in the drops most of the time.
Unless you're trying to go fast most of the time.
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wow that is hideous.
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Originally Posted by umd View Post
If anyone says they ride in the drops all the time then their bars are too high. If you are already in the drops, and you want to be more aggressive or aerodynamic for a shorrt period of time (say, for example, an hour long crit), then where would you go? Assuming of course you were already bending your elbows.

I have an agressive bar position, I can get very low on the hoods (wtf are hooks?), and comfortable have a completely flat back in the drops. But for training and riding around, speed is less important than effort and I prefer to generally stay on the hoods.
hooks = drops
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