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Ritterview 03-11-09 11:56 PM

Fitting thermal jacket in rear jersey pocket
 
With our new Voler kits this year, I sprung for the Thermal Jacket. This is the same sold by Hammer.

I commute to work, and yesterday it was 35 F at 7 AM, and 61 F at 6 PM. The jacket, with its full coverage of IsoWind, was great in the morning, but too warm in the evening. But, being thermal and all, it is thick, and doesn't readily fit in my back pocket.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3441/...398849bfea.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3569/...cf62432e9b.jpg

I don't know if the solution for this is commonly known, but I've never seen it, so maybe you haven't either. I start by turning the sleeves inside out, and then stuffing the sleeve into itself. I keep stuffing the sleeve until half the jacket is in, as evidenced by getting to the label on the collar. Then, I do the same on the other side...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3573/...dcdd192f87.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3585/...ef4df9031c.jpg


...until the two pouches meet and articulate in the center.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3474/...bbf3230612.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3628/...5218473e38.jpg


One pouch goes into the center pocket, the other pouch goes into one of the side pockets. It fits very securely, and doesn't ball up so much that you feel a huge lump.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3540/...da907f753a.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3541/...5f407103f1.jpg

Metzinger 03-12-09 01:28 AM

Crikey! With all those sponsors, I thought you would have simply tossed the jacket to the adoring fans lining the course when you felt warm, grabbing a new one from the support vehicle when you needed it.

Seriously, that's some very nice origami you've done there. I'm a big fan of articulating pouches.

HigherGround 03-12-09 01:44 AM


Originally Posted by Ritterview (Post 8514919)
I don't know if the solution for this is commonly known, but I've never seen it, so maybe you haven't either.

I was expecting this thread to be asking about how to fit a thermal jacket in your jersey pockets, followed by a chorus of "It can't be done!" responses - which was my belief as well. That reminds me of two sayings:

1) Those who say it can't be done are usually interrupted by someone doing it.

2) You can learn something new every day if you start off stupid enough. :lol:

Thanks for posting the tip, and for going through the effort of adding the pictures for clarity. :beer:

Hendley 03-12-09 02:16 AM

Brilliant.

botto 03-12-09 02:59 AM

next time your club comes out with new kit, you should spring for a graphic designer.

roadwarrior 03-12-09 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by Metzinger (Post 8515020)
Crikey! With all those sponsors, I thought you would have simply tossed the jacket to the adoring fans lining the course when you felt warm,

How many of those jackets could his wife/girlfriend/either/both possibly use?

mkadam68 03-12-09 07:35 AM

Yeah, but what do you do with all the other stuff that should go in the pocket your jacket now takes up? :D

Seriously...SoCal: 32 degrees in morning, 65-70+ degrees after work (sometimes more). So, I have jacket, leg/knee warmers, arm warmers (I usually wear them home), gloves, phone/ipod, CO2 pump, keys for work, cleat covers, and very small pockets. I'll certainly try your idea, but I don't know if it'll all fit.

GP 03-12-09 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by mkadam68 (Post 8515692)
Yeah, but what do you do with all the other stuff that should go in the pocket your jacket now takes up? :D

Seriously...SoCal: 32 degrees in morning, 65-70+ degrees after work (sometimes more). So, I have jacket, leg/knee warmers, arm warmers (I usually wear them home), gloves, phone/ipod, CO2 pump, keys for work, cleat covers, and very small pockets. I'll certainly try your idea, but I don't know if it'll all fit.

Fold or roll up your jacket and stick it under your jersey. The bottom elastic will hold it in place.

CastIron 03-12-09 08:12 AM

I usually roll it into one half of a sleeve. The simply lash it to my saddle rails with a toe strap (yes I have a seat bag). Works great for rain gear, too.

Ritterview 03-13-09 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by mkadam68 (Post 8515692)
Yeah, but what do you do with all the other stuff that should go in the pocket your jacket now takes up? :D

Seriously...SoCal: 32 degrees in morning, 65-70+ degrees after work (sometimes more). So, I have jacket, leg/knee warmers, arm warmers (I usually wear them home), gloves, phone/ipod, CO2 pump, keys for work, cleat covers, and very small pockets. I'll certainly try your idea, but I don't know if it'll all fit.

Aha, I've got an answer for that too. In the winter, the need for winter accessory storage exceeds the need for hydration. So, I put a tennis can in the water bottle cage. You can really compress a lot into it. It weighs about 30 grams, and fits perfectly. I've got a translucent smoked color somewhere, that is better than clear. If you need still more room, find a 4 ball canister.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3541/...e72f520e40.jpg

mkadam68 03-13-09 07:51 AM

Great idea. Unfortunately, that's where the battery for my light goes (I leave home at 4am getting me to work at 6--pitch dark). :D

Great idea though!

Second Mouse 03-13-09 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by mkadam68 (Post 8515692)
Yeah, but what do you do with all the other stuff that should go in the pocket your jacket now takes up? :D

Seriously...SoCal: 32 degrees in morning, 65-70+ degrees after work (sometimes more). So, I have jacket, leg/knee warmers, arm warmers (I usually wear them home), gloves, phone/ipod, CO2 pump, keys for work, cleat covers, and very small pockets. I'll certainly try your idea, but I don't know if it'll all fit.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/images/spec%20wedgie%2007.jpg

Ritterview 03-13-09 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by mkadam68 (Post 8521616)
Great idea. Unfortunately, that's where the battery for my light goes
Great idea though!

Well, for $4.35, you could get the PBK seatpost bottle cage holder, and use the tennis can.
http://www.probikekit.com/_img_200x256/A1424.jpg

IMO, a tennis can, even in this seatpost configuration, is preferable to an expandable saddle bag for winter clothes carriage.
  • It is easier to empty the can off the bike, than to dig out of a saddle bag.
  • The rigid can walls provide significant compression.
  • No intermingling of mechanical items and clothing.
  • OCP-wise, a tennis can is iffy, but a large saddle bag is definitely a violation.
  • You can load the can off the bike, where you like. In the morning I'll load it in the kitchen with muesli for breakfast, for example.
  • When you get home, you can carry the can with the clothes to your closet, and be ready for the next morning.
  • It is easier to transition from commute to weekend ride mode, with neither being saddled with a huge saddle bag, nor having to move its contents from a larger to smaller bag.

mkadam68 03-13-09 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Ritterview (Post 8524084)
Well, for $4.35, you could get the PBK seatpost bottle cage holder, and use the tennis can.

IMO, a tennis can, even in this seatpost configuration, is preferable to an expandable saddle bag for winter clothes carriage.

You know? You're right. Time to HTFU and stop making excuses!

I already actually have this:

http://www.bikeparts.com/pimage/BPC300651.jpg
I used it on a couple centuries last year...didn't like it. When it held 1 or 2 full bottles, it seriously effected the bike's center of mass and even my riding--especially when I was out of the saddle. But, I suppose that's just a matter of getting used to. One thing I don't like, though, is I have to remove the seat-post to install it or take it off. I need one with a quick-release or something.

But, my 40-mile commute in the morning is a bit long for only one large water bottle, even in the winter. So, if I used this, I could now have more room for water.

And then, of course, there's this...

Originally Posted by Ritterview (Post 8524084)
  • OCP-wise, a tennis can is iffy, but a large saddle bag is definitely a violation.

:D

Gluteus 03-13-09 02:25 PM

Post #1 and #10.........



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Ritterview 10-11-09 09:16 PM

I'm bumping this thread, what with cold weather coming down.

How might this thread be moved to the Winter Cycling forum?

JF1 10-11-09 11:23 PM

This is good to know as I just ordered the Hammer thermal jacket.


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