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dedacciai eom 16.5 steel tubing

Old 05-14-00, 07:24 PM
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I am interested in comments from any one who has a frame made out of the dedacciai eom 16.5 steel. How does it feel? problems? Comments in general.
This is the steel I have chosen for the CIOCC italian frame I am buying. I downloaded the 20 page document dedacciai have on the web that gives instruction to frame builders on the safeguards required to work with this superlight steel. It would be fair to say I am a little bit concerned about the durability of this stuff.
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Old 05-14-00, 10:12 PM
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Sir,

Yes, concern yourself with durability.

When I sell frames here I blow people away. How? Well to me each frame is different. Different in geometry, feel, strenght and many other features. I take in account you as a rider from your feedback and make reccomendations. I am saying this to let you know when buying a frame that many shops simply do not know and to them all frames are the same and leave it up to you with out any real feedback or advise from them

With that said, the lighter steel frames I do not reccomend to all. Why. Some may be on the flexy side depending on builder and specs and they are a bit on the fragile side due to the thiness of the walls in many sections.

Dedaccia like very few companies have strict guidelines on the construction of their tubes and whom is allowed to use it. Why? They want to see their high end tubes built by good builders with experience, talent and much more and not by some mass produced giant that will make faulty products and put the consumers at risk in the search for profits. I like Dedacciai's approach to this.

Please contact me (reply to this with email address) if you have any questions. I like to inform all and give them some guidelines. I get many calls a week here for advise alone and sadly many that got farmes that they dislike for many reasons.
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Old 05-15-00, 03:01 PM
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Thanks for the reply Xavier.

Yes I believe CIOCC are a very reputable frame builder and I have taken advice from my coach (20 years in the business) on the selection of frame. I am small so the lighter frame is suitable.
I guess a better question than my last is
Has any one had a CIOCC frame and what are their experiences.
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Old 05-16-00, 10:36 PM
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I have to disagree slightly with Xavier's reply. We have been building with Columbus' Foco tubeset (among others) for several years now and have seen zero failures attributable to the thin tubing. While his comments likely come from past experience with failures of ultralight steel tubesets such as Columbus' Nemo (a great tubeset, but not suited for larger riders), steels have come a very long way since then. In addition to the increase in ultralight tubesets' strength and durability, large diameter and/or shaped tubes have all but eliminated the flex issue. Is everyone suited for ultralight steel? No, but a high percentage riders are.

I will agree that not just any builder should work with ultralight tubing, for there is a very steep learning curve and the difficulty in fabrication limits the tubes' use in mass production frames.

I have heard good things about Ciocc, but haven't ridden one myself.

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