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Old 03-27-09, 01:24 PM
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Anyone else ever get bad tires from PBK?

I've often wondered how they can sell tires so cheap and now I wonder if it has something to do with the quality. I've bought dozens of Michelin Pro Race tires from them in the past and never had a problem with any of them but I've had buddies who have. Recently I purchased two Continental Competition Tubulars from PBK and the one isn't completely round. It has a couple bulges which are only noticeable once the tire is glued and aired up. I've tried sending both Continental and PBK an email last week but have yet to hear from either of them.

I'm sure the vast majority of you haven't but was wondering if anybody on here has had similar problems with tires from PBK?

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Old 03-27-09, 02:41 PM
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I'd guess this is not a problem with PBK but with with getting some flawed product from the tire manufacturers. PBK is just shipping what Michelin, Continental and others are sending to them.

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Originally Posted by MSchott View Post
I'd guess this is not a problem with PBK but with with getting some flawed product from the tire manufacturers. PBK is just shipping what Michelin, Continental and others are sending to them.

Thanks, Mike.
I think he's wondering if they are getting bad batches--intentionally--so they can sell them at a reduced price.
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I doubt it. I'm pretty sure Michelin would make them have a disclaimer if they did. That way Michelin doesn't' get their reputation on tires tarnished for producing bad tires.
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Selling bad tires intentionally is bad business for everyone, so no manufacturers are willingly going to do it. If this was 1960-sometihng then I'd revoke what I just said, but no now.

I have noticed that the Vittorias I just got were rubber banded with a tag instead of in a box though. I don't know if they do come with a box.
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I just got a couple of Conti Sprinter tubulars from PBK, and the boxes they came in both looked like they'd lived a very hard life. "Spindled and mutilated" pretty much sums up their condition. But the tires appear to be fine.
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Originally Posted by Psyclismo View Post
But the tires appear to be fine.
Have you glued and ridden them yet?
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Are you aware that tubulars are generally less round than clinchers? My GP4000 tubies are considered some of the better tires for roundness but still have a bit of a lump where the base tape overlaps.

It could be a conspiracy unloading inferior products on ignorant Americans, but somehow I doubt it.
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You should always install, inflate, and yes, even ride(very carefully) your tubulars BEFORE YOU GLUE THEM to check for defects. Once they have been glued, they are NOT returnable.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21 View Post
Selling bad tires intentionally is bad business for everyone, so no manufacturers are willingly going to do it. If this was 1960-sometihng then I'd revoke what I just said, but no now.

I have noticed that the Vittorias I just got were rubber banded with a tag instead of in a box though. I don't know if they do come with a box.
Most of mine have come in boxes. But I've had a set come without a box. Still had the stickers.
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Originally Posted by The Carpenter View Post
You should always install, inflate, and yes, even ride(very carefully) your tubulars BEFORE YOU GLUE THEM to check for defects. Once they have been glued, they are NOT returnable.
Actually, they were taped.
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Thats besides the point.

And I think you should change your avatar, I always think I'm talking to Garysol1.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21 View Post
Thats besides the point.
How so?
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What do you mean "how so?"

taping is basically the same thing as gluing, in the sense that the tire is unreturnable.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21 View Post

taping is basically the same thing as gluing, in the sense that the tire is unreturnable.
But there's no glue on the tire. The tape came off completely, leaving no residue.
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They do the sniff check.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21 View Post
They do the sniff check.
Damn, I did run over some dog doo doo.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21 View Post
Thats besides the point.

And I think you should change your avatar, I always think I'm talking to Garysol1.
I actually replied that "Gary is saying"
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Sorry guys but I've actually had this avatar on another forum for several years and I'm used to it. Every time I see a post from Gary I get really confused as well. Even my wife was yelling Gary last night while we were making love. At first it really disturbed me as my name is not Gary but then I remembered the avatar thing.
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PBK finally sent me an RMA number!
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