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View Poll Results: What level rider would you pay to ride with or get instruction?
They need to be an active pro
6
12.24%
Ex-pro's are good enough.
23
46.94%
They need to be an active Cat 1
10
20.41%
They need to be an active Cat 2
2
4.08%
They need to be an active Cat 3
2
4.08%
They need to be an active Cat 4
0
0%
They need to be an active Cat 5
6
12.24%
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Would you pay to ride and get instruction from a pro? How about a Cat 2?

Old 04-06-09, 10:58 AM
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Yes I would pay if I wanted the coaching and the coach was someone that I thought could help me. I have paid for a few clinics and while they were helpful I kind of felt like I was just subsidizing someones race addiction/lifestyle and they were just going through the motions.

The best coaching that I have received has always been freely given and has had the greatest benefit, I have tried to pay it forward...

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Old 04-06-09, 11:04 AM
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I think a person serious about competitive cycling would benefit from a trainer...the rest...which is the majority would probably just rather learn on their own.
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Old 04-06-09, 11:05 AM
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Who is faster, Lance or his coach?
The better you get, the less and less ability to perform has to do with a good coach.
I have no idea how one would find a good coach if you don't know anyone in the sport.
What about that Carmichael training camp?
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Old 04-06-09, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by permanentjaun View Post
For those that said strong riding ability doesn't equate to a strong coaching ability, how do you fid a good coach then? Is it strictly word of mouth at that point to determine the quality of coach that they are?
I'd look for someone with a USAC or USAT certification.
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Old 04-06-09, 12:59 PM
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I have one cat 2 friend that gives me good advice. But I'll basically listen to anyone that can give me some constructive criticism.
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Old 04-06-09, 01:23 PM
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its amazing how much good free advice is out there... and how some people vehemently insist on not listening to it.

our club is blessed with a few old time crit racers (at least 30+ years racing each) and at least three pro 1/2s...

and i cant tell you how many times new people come to the club, show a bit of talent... but when offered guidance-

they insist on listening to the latest marketing, advertising, or (god forbid) some internet forum.


all the while, looking at these experienced veterans with a superior eye and hinting that these old guys must be crazy and cant possibly know anything.
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Old 04-06-09, 01:36 PM
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I'll take any advice, good or bad. That's why I'm on Bikeforums.
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Old 04-06-09, 01:39 PM
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I'd pay Pcad to ride with me. Seriously wouldn't hurt my image
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Old 04-06-09, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris R. View Post
We don't all hang out with or even have any local pros to ride with.
There are not a ton of pro riders just riding the streets where I ride...

I would pay someone to help me get faster for sure. Through the winter I was doing these super hard core spinning classes with a coach to work on power and it has helped for sure. I'd like to do a couple of road rides with the same coach to see how he makes me work on the road.
well who i am paying (through my team) is an actual coach (biomechanical engineer, USAC level 1 coach)
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Old 04-06-09, 02:04 PM
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while racing experience is worth a lot, I'd want coaching from a certified coach
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Old 04-06-09, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by superdex View Post
while racing experience is worth a lot, I'd want coaching from a certified coach
I know of a couple of people with coaching licenses who are blowhards. I wouldn't pay them a dime to tell me anything. Other older, more experienced riders have pointed out stuff that has actually helped me.

+1 million on riding up a hill fast doesn't mean you can teach someone about bike racing
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Old 04-06-09, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BobLoblaw View Post
Anyone see Stijn Devolder yesterday? His from was ATROCIOUS. He was way overgeared on a lot of those climbs, bouncing all over the place like a Marine doing pushups, weaving side to side instead of holding a perfectly straight line. Talk about needing coaching.
I think he was the Pelham rider in the Cat 4 race in Bethel yesterday !
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