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$18K bikes aren't selling like they used too

Old 04-07-09, 02:11 PM
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$18K bikes aren't selling like they used too

Apparently, times are tough.

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Old 04-07-09, 02:20 PM
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Even with Super Record and Zipps, I don't see how you could spend $18K on a single bike.
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
Even with Super Record and Zipps, I don't see how you could spend $18K on a single bike.
Extended warranty? I bet finance a-holes fall for gimmicks like every other lemming.
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
Even with Super Record and Zipps, I don't see how you could spend $18K on a single bike.
... with a 7K investment banker discount
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Old 04-07-09, 02:25 PM
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Throw some LW Obermayer's and Super11 on a $6k frame and you're in that ballpark.
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go to compeditive cyclist and start playing with bikes. You can get them up to 20k "easily)

Prince or dogma frame (~5000)
SRM computer (~3000)
Dura Ace Di2 (~5500)
Lightweight wheels (~4500)

Thats 18K right there. Add rediculous seat, bars, garmin 705, tires, and your pretty damn close to 20,000.
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I guess that's what I get for trolling eBay, Bonktown, pbk.com, etc. I have no idea what bikes cost in the real world.
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I have no problem with nice bikes, but it seems like rigs in this obscene $ range would invite ridicule and skepticism at local rides/races, unless you're a pro.
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Race? Those aren't racing bikes. They're posing bikes.
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Originally Posted by powpow View Post
Apparently, times are tough.

NY Times link
That'sashame.
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It is a shame.

People who pay too much subsidize those who don't pay enough.

Are you part of a grocery store savings club? If so, you ought to be thanking everyone who shops there who isn't in the club for subsidizing your 2-for-1 specials.
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Originally Posted by powpow View Post
Apparently, times are tough.

NY Times link
That's true. I can honestly say that I have no intention of purchasing a bicycle that sells for $18,000.00
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Originally Posted by powpow View Post
I have no problem with nice bikes, but it seems like rigs in this obscene $ range would invite ridicule and skepticism at local rides/races, unless you're a pro.
Pros don't buy their bikes.
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
I guess that's what I get for trolling eBay, Bonktown, pbk.com, etc. I have no idea what bikes cost in the real world.
18K is not really the real world either....
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Old 04-07-09, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ratfish View Post
Pros don't buy their bikes.
Ya, I'm aware of that.
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I'm surprised the coaches report they haven't had much of a drop-off in business.
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I'm surprised the coaches report they haven't had much of a drop-off in business.
Time for some of the $20k bike riders to work on the engine!
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It is all relative. If a guy makes $500,000/year, and he is very fond of bicycles, then I don't see why spending $20,000 on a bike is problematic.

I once had a friend complain to me bitterly about his boss using company funds to purchase a car for a girlfriend, who did not even work for the business. I let him finish, and then reminded him that his boss owns the business!
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I'm thinking about relative costs of low-end and vs. high-end bikes and cars. Seems like a 1:10 ratio would work out to be $2,000 : $20,000 for bikes, and $20,000 : $200,000 for car. Doesn't sound far off I guess mathematically. But somehow a $20,000 bike seems more outrageous than a $200,000 car. I don't have the empirical means to test either option, so the comparison is purely academic
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
Even with Super Record and Zipps, I don't see how you could spend $18K on a single bike.
I don't know go ask one of the Stork owners...they drop 15-20k on a bike easy....remember you get your Zipps with custom sticker to match the Stork logo.....it's all worth it.
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i have no problem with somebody spending lots of money on a bike. $20k, go nuts bud. i've ridden in nyc on many occasions and to be honest its really fun because there are SO many nice bikes to drool over during your ride.

people think i am crazy for spending $3k on a bike. who am i to complain about somebody who is pulling down $5m/year on a $20k bike.

btw not too many of them spend 20k. cadence, however, certainly does offer these bikes should the need arise. it's an epicly drool-worthy store. i recommend people stopping by its on hudson street in lower manhattan.
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I tried at Competitive Cyclist, and got a Pinarello Prince up to $17,598.34, without a power meter (which regrettably isn't an option on their calculator). I did add a Garmin Edge 705.

The key is to add Lightweight Obermeyers.



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FRAME: Pinarello Prince Carbon with selected components from Super Record 11 package Red 55cm
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Bottom Bracket: Campagnolo Super Record 11 Ultra Torque Bottom Bracket 70 Italian
Brake Calipers: Campagnolo Super Record 11 Skeleton Brake Calipers
Cassettes: Campagnolo Super Record 11 Cassette 11/25
Chains: Campagnolo Record 11 Chain
Cranks: Zipp Vumachrono Crankset 53/39 175mm
Front Derailleurs: Campagnolo Super Record 11 Front Derailleur 34.9mm
Handlebar Tape: Cinelli Cork Handlebar Tape Black
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Na here is your bike


If you have any questions, please contact us at sales@competitivecyclist.com or 888-276-7130
PRICE:
$22,304.82
FRAME:
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SRM Dura-Ace Wireless Powermeter System 170mm
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its all about money and lack thereof. For those who have it and likes bikes...20 grand is nothing really. For most of us its extravagance though.

Saying its ridiculous is not fair to those who worked hard and wants the best theirmoney can buy. So what if they crash it o the local crit...they probably have another 20k bike in their mansion.
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Originally Posted by drew2002 View Post
I'm thinking about relative costs of low-end and vs. high-end bikes and cars. Seems like a 1:10 ratio would work out to be $2,000 : $20,000 for bikes, and $20,000 : $200,000 for car. Doesn't sound far off I guess mathematically. But somehow a $20,000 bike seems more outrageous than a $200,000 car. I don't have the empirical means to test either option, so the comparison is purely academic
I agree with you, but I figure my bike is much more likely to be crashed and totaled than my car. Although I remember my first 20k car, and I was a little shocked about spending that much on a car.
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