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Can I build this bike?

Old 04-08-09, 02:06 PM
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Can I build this bike?

Time for a new bike and I've set myself the following parameters:

1. Frameset must be one currently used in pro Euro tour
2. Frameset and all components must be new with warranty
3. Groupset must be such that I can choose stem length, bar width, crank length etc.
4. Clinchers
5. Within 1% of UCI weight limit with pedals and bottle cages, but not computer
6. Less than $3,000

Over the next few days/weeks I'll be researching/sourcing. I don't have access to any pro-deals or other discounts. One advantage I have on weight is that the frameset will be small or xs depending on make.

What do you think: easily doable? doable, but not easy? impossible?
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Without a ton of time sourcing things, some smoking deals, and some wheels that could be in the silly light category, I think it's going to be very hard.

Realize the weight bogey you've set for your self is 15.1 lbs.

Most pro tour bikes even with top groups are going to be at or over 15lbs with a run of the mill clincher wheelset.

To hit your weight target, you'll need a higher end group, and a high end set of wheels.

Given that the pro tour frame requirement is going to take up a big portion of your budget, its going to be hard to get wheels light enough within your budget (particularly if you want to them to actually be rideable in the real world.)
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Old 04-08-09, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by border reiver View Post
Time for a new bike and I've set myself the following parameters:

1. Frameset must be one currently used in pro Euro tour
2. Frameset and all components must be new with warranty
3. Groupset must be such that I can choose stem length, bar width, crank length etc.
4. Clinchers
5. Within 1% of UCI weight limit with pedals and bottle cages, but not computer
6. Less than $3,000

Over the next few days/weeks I'll be researching/sourcing. I don't have access to any pro-deals or other discounts. One advantage I have on weight is that the frameset will be small or xs depending on make.

What do you think: easily doable? doable, but not easy? impossible?
You can have two of the three.
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Old 04-08-09, 02:17 PM
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Maybe possible. The frame set alone, if it is pro-tour quality, may bust your budget right there (such as the Tarmac SL2 ($3300), T-Cube ($2750), Cervelo S3 ($4000+))
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Old 04-08-09, 02:50 PM
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Champagne taste with a Beer budget (in relative terms).


You set yourself a standard of, for whatever reason, having a frame that is in the European pro peloton ...but no such parameters for the groupset?
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Old 04-08-09, 03:04 PM
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^^ I'm OK with either ultegra, rival or centaur, although I'd prefer not to go lower. If I could still find it I'd probably go for DA7800 (although my preferred 170mm cranks might be hard). I probably should have said "pro-pelton level" frame, but then the frame standard would become much more subjective.
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Old 04-08-09, 03:33 PM
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DA, pro tour frame, 15lbs, and less than 3grand?

Sir, I wish you luck.
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Old 04-08-09, 03:39 PM
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15lbs? No, not less than 3k. Around 17lbs would be more doable I would think.
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Old 04-08-09, 03:43 PM
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To be fair the OP said pro tour frame but only said "new" components. There are some low budget pro-tour teams that may use cheap frames. If nothing else, I think some riders on the Cervelo team still use the alu soloist (what is it, the S1 now?). Hmm, except then you probably won't meet the weight limit. Um, yeah, good luck with that.

Edit: a lot of people are happy with their Pedal Force frames... seems you could get that with Rival and if you chose your other components carefully you may get it close to 15 pounds but light enough wheels may break the bank.
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A pro tour frame can put you over budget right there. For the groupset, you'll want SRAM rival. Cheap and light. For the wheels, there are some 1300 gram clinchers out there. You'd save a fair bit of weight if you went tubular though. If you don't mind going with a non pro tour frame, either pedal force or talking to phallenthoul will be your best bet.
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Old 04-08-09, 04:09 PM
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If it doesn't have to be new, I can sell you a protour frame from a few years ago within your budget
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Dammit. You were doing so well with your parameters until number 6. I say "no," but prove me wrong.
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Old 04-08-09, 04:34 PM
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Good luck, but have me wondering, do you have it already. If so come on prove us wrong.
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IMHO
Do a search, call the teams and ask to buy a frame, slap on a Super Record/Record gruppo...time to race

Remember in F1 Brawn-Mercedes is buying Mercedes Benz engines and kicking the $h I+ out of the MB factory team.

Everything is for sale.

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Originally Posted by RichinPeoria View Post
IMHO
Do a search, call the teams and ask to buy a frame, slap on a Super Record/Record gruppo...time to race

Remeber in F1 Brawn-Mercedes is buying Mercedes Benz engines and kicking the $h I+ out of the MB factory team.

Everything is for sale.
not for $3k it aint.
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I am NOT sure this will be 15.1 lbs (Close though) but here is a list that I believe fit all other specifications.

Orbea Opal- 2049 (MSRP, could be purchased for less, ridden by team type one not sure if it is ridden in the euro tour.)
SRAM Rival- 650 (could also be found for less, but this the lowest I have seen)
Flit Letica Wheels-399 (MSRP, currently there is group buy for 299)

This all add up to 3098 before tax and you still need handle bars, handle bar tape, stem, saddle, seat post, tires and intertubes (possible salvaged from another bike).

With this in mind I would have to say it is not really possible to get the 15 lbs you requested but you could always do this then add lighter handle bars, handle bar tape, stem, saddle, seat post, tires and intertubes at a later date.

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not for $3k it aint.
UMD imho syph (shut your pie hole) until you have the data (contacted the teams)...

(ack..I can not type well)
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Originally Posted by RichinPeoria View Post
UMD imho syph (shut your pie hole) until you have the data (contacted the teams)...

(ack..I can not type well)
He's not going to get super-record to put on it for $3k. And it doesn't meet the "new with warranty" criteria set forth in the OP...
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Originally Posted by umd View Post
He's not going to get super-record to put on it for $3k. And it doesn't meet the "new with warranty" criteria set forth in the OP...
"ok, ok...!" (see TVFama for what that means) maybe the "new" part won't work out... but a team frame...who needs a warranty?... is that really what they want (looking) for anyhow?
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Doesent Boardman sponsor a womens pro tour level team? If so they have affordable bikes, but they shipping might kill you.

They are also well reviewed
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Originally Posted by RichinPeoria View Post
"ok, ok...!" (see TVFama for what that means) maybe the "new" part won't work out... but a team frame...who needs a warranty?... is that really what they want (looking) for anyhow?
:shrug:

Just going with the stated criteria "Frameset and all components must be new with warranty"
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Originally Posted by umd View Post
:shrug:

Just going with the stated criteria "Frameset and all components must be new with warranty"
np
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I'd like to find out (really) what these team frames would go for and maybe be an outlet for them.
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Originally Posted by umd View Post
:shrug:

Just going with the stated criteria "Frameset and all components must be new with warranty"
Santa Barbara.!.... It snowed last night here ( in north PA)... We need to move to warmer a climate so we can bike everyday.
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Originally Posted by richinpeoria View Post
santa barbara.!....
Hehe
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