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Anyone have any problems with carbon rails on Fizik saddles?

Old 04-08-09, 05:20 PM
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Anyone have any problems with carbon rails on Fizik saddles?

My Arione just isn't working out for me anymore, I don't think it ever really did. Any who my shop has a test ride program with the Antares and from the looks I think it's going to be a better fit. It's not a whole lot more expensive to get it with carbon rails (I think like $30-45?). I race a lot and I'm wondering if getting carbon rails is a bad idea? I've seen several of full carbon saddles crack so far this season already, and not even from crashes but from just regular racing.

The saddle is already so damn light, should I just side with durability and go with the alloy rails over the carbon?
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Mine are fraying a bit from damage when I was hit by a car last September... I should probably replace it...
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i've the older style carbon rails with a silver coating where the clamp goes, and also the current carbon wrapped. the older version (lots and lots of miles) still works perfectly fine as does the new one. fwiw, i use a thomson on both.
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Hmm, still not sure if it's worth it to save 30 grams. I can't believe how light the Antares already are.
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if you dont like the airone...i do not think you want the antares (too similar IMO and my lbs owner HATES it)...i test rode the three A's over this past month and the aliante hands down takes it for me. whatever shop sells fizik should have the orange demo saddles in by now so you should test them.

my lbs owner said the carbon rails aren't going anywhere, but then again ive heard some that have cracked (i think dr.pete had his aliante rail snap)...im still going for the carbon aliante since i can get it for $180 with warranty from my shop.

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Originally Posted by enjoi07 View Post
if you dont like the airone...i do not think you want the antares (too similar IMO)...i test rode the three A's over this past month and the aliante hands down takes it for me. whatever shop sells fizik should have the orange demo saddles in by now so you should test them.

my lbs owner said the carbon rails aren't going anywhere, but then again ive heard some that have cracked (i think dr.pete had his aliante rail snap)...im still going for the carbon aliante since i can get it for $180 with warranty from my shop.
Yah it's the orange saddles we have em'. I'm going try the Aliante too if the Antares doesn't work out, I'm thinking the Antares is going to work because it's a bit winder and also the nose is lower profile. We'll see though, I get my money back if I don't like it.
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It really has a lot more to do with how, and where, your seatpost clamps the rails. Selle Italia published a test report (I can't find it now) using the same saddles and various seatposts that clamped the rails in a variety of ways.

They found that certain clamp designs had a much higher failure rate than others. The more tradition design was the best and the worst were the designs that used two bars perpendicular to the rails. Sound familiar?

Their response was to change the shape of the rails from round to elongated oval. They claimed it helped eliminate many of the failures.

That was their data so take it for what you will.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina View Post
It really has a lot more to do with how, and where, your seatpost clamps the rails. Selle Italia published a test report (I can't find it now) using the same saddles and various seatposts that clamped the rails in a variety of ways.

They found that certain clamp designs had a much higher failure rate than others. The more tradition design was the best and the worst were the designs that used two bars perpendicular to the rails. Sound familiar?

Their response was to change the shape of the rails from round to elongated oval. They claimed it helped eliminate many of the failures.

That was their data so take it for what you will.
Ugh I think I'll just save some money and get the alloy lol it's only 30 grams anyway.
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