Second Positive for Tyler Hamilton leads to Retirement
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Tyler wasn't taking prescription anti-depressants because of the side effects (article I read didn't say what they were) they had on him. And that he was taking something like double the normal amount of them and they were not helping. He was desperate after learning his mother had cancer, and took the risk of being discovered. He knew it was wrong, he knew he could and would likely be caught. I think he's handling this situation as best he can considering.
If you are saying he is handling his depression as best he can, I disagree. He should have gone back to his doctor and let him supervise his medication and treatment. In addition, it was incumbent on Tyler, and he owed it to the sport, to show he is clean and remain clean, given his history. He could have retired as a reformed doper, and it would have been better for the sport and its image. He let all of cycling down.
If you are saying he is handling the revelations as best he can by retiring immediately and admitting his wrongs, the I agree with you.
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If you are saying he is handling his depression as best he can, I disagree. He should have gone back to his doctor and let him supervise his medication and treatment. In addition, it was incumbent on Tyler, and he owed it to the sport, to show he is clean and remain clean, given his history. He could have retired as a reformed doper, and it would have been better for the sport and its image. He let all of cycling down.
If you are saying he is handling the revelations as best he can by retiring immediately and admitting his wrongs, the I agree with you.
If you are saying he is handling the revelations as best he can by retiring immediately and admitting his wrongs, the I agree with you.
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Tyler wasn't taking prescription anti-depressants because of the side effects (article I read didn't say what they were) they had on him. And that he was taking something like double the normal amount of them and they were not helping. He was desperate after learning his mother had cancer, and took the risk of being discovered. He knew it was wrong, he knew he could and would likely be caught. I think he's handling this situation as best he can considering.
Prozac
Zoloft
Paxil
Effexor
Remeron
Wellbutrin
Zyprexa
St John's Wort (1st-line rx in europe)
To say that he was out of established prescription options doesn't make sense.
I get that he's been through a lot and I do feel sorry for him about that, but he really did bring it on himself this time.
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I don't remember them off the top of my head, and the only stories I've heard were about folks on other teams. They were the usual stories told in passing, or allusions made to people who remain nameless. I'm nowhere near connected enough to have a by-name list. I was merely a schmuck cat 4 hearing stories when the cool kids were around.
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There are more anti-depressants these days than you can shake a stick at. Off the top of my head--and I'm a surgeon--I can think of:
Cervelo
Zipp
BF
E-Trade Baby Commercials
Domino's Pizza
Prozac
Zoloft
Paxil
Effexor
Remeron
Wellbutrin
Zyprexa
St John's Wort (1st-line rx in europe)
Cervelo
Zipp
BF
E-Trade Baby Commercials
Domino's Pizza
Prozac
Zoloft
Paxil
Effexor
Remeron
Wellbutrin
Zyprexa
St John's Wort (1st-line rx in europe)
And you call yourself a 'doctor'.
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At the time he bought the supplement, which is marketed under the brand name Mitamins Advanced Formula for Depression, Hamilton was in a "desperate" emotional state triggered when he went off his prescription medication cold turkey, he said.
Having said that, I agree Tyler just needs to go away and stay away.
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All I know is he had to be on some type of mind bending narcotics to win that stage of the tour with a broken collarbone...that was some serious stones.
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Quitting antidepressants cold turkey isn't exactly taking them, now is it? And it would seem that his decision is what made him need his special vitamins anyway.
What's asinine is you calling anything I've written in this thread a call to just "hey, feel different...act different." I never said that. And yes, I've had both patients and co-workers who have struggled with depression, so save the sermon.
Well, at least we agree on something.
Doing non-sensical sh*t is what depressed/bi-polar/whatever people do. it's the nature of the beast. Simply telling them 'hey, feel different...act different' and actually expecting them to do just that when they're not on their medication unrealistic, unsympathetic and asinine, I would expect YOU of all people to be more understanding. Clearly you have never been around someone in that condition for any length of time.
Having said that, I agree Tyler just needs to go away and stay away.
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Should have taken cod liver oil to address the underlying deficiency that is probably at the root of his depression.
In any case, this recent thing isn't really important as he was walking around before with someone else's blood in him. I'm surprised that pros don't fake bad car accidents and say they got a transfusion for blood loss.
In any case, this recent thing isn't really important as he was walking around before with someone else's blood in him. I'm surprised that pros don't fake bad car accidents and say they got a transfusion for blood loss.
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Fixed .... some Masters like to be fast too .....
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It sounds like he didn't care would be positive or found out and just didn't care. Doesn't seem like he wants to race anymore with his past and RL issues. Is he an idiot for taking it? If he still wanted to race and win-- yes, but he doesn't and wanted out, so who care?
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