Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

How Much Climbing?

Notices
Road Cycling It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle. -- Ernest Hemingway

How Much Climbing?

Old 04-20-09, 04:44 PM
  #26  
climber has-been
 
terrymorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Palo Alto, CA
Posts: 7,408

Bikes: Scott Addict R1, Felt Z1

Liked 3,922 Times in 1,937 Posts
Last year I kept good stats was 2004:

Distance: 14,567 miles
Vertical: 1,211,779 feet
Ft/Mile: 83
__________________
Ride, Rest, Repeat. ROUVY: terrymorse


terrymorse is offline  
Old 04-20-09, 05:09 PM
  #27  
Despite all my rage, I am
 
rooftest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 2,613

Bikes: LeMond Zurich, Colnago C-50

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by DScott
In the mountains, a hard ride is +/-100ft/mile. At the beach, it's about 0ft/mile. Both can be painful, if done right.
Less than a 2% grade? That's not very hard...
rooftest is offline  
Old 04-20-09, 05:15 PM
  #28  
crazy bike girl
 
msincredible's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: CA Central Coast
Posts: 3,325

Bikes: '07 Orbea Onix, '07 Birdy Yellow, '06 Cannondale Bad Boy (stolen)

Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by rooftest
Less than a 2% grade? That's not very hard...
It could be with strong coastal headwinds.

Edit: I didn't read carefully and thought he was talking about the beach route. 100 ft/mile is a good amount of climbing.
__________________
Countries I've ridden in: US, Canada, Ireland, UK, Germany, Netherlands, France, China, Singapore, Malaysia
States I've ridden in: Illinois, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, California, Nevada, Missouri, Colorado

Last edited by msincredible; 04-20-09 at 06:29 PM.
msincredible is offline  
Old 04-20-09, 05:22 PM
  #29  
Senior Member
 
tntyz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Nabob, WI
Posts: 1,279

Bikes: 2018 Domane SL7

Liked 42 Times in 25 Posts
Average is about 70 ft/mile just going our my back door. Highest was 80 ft/mi (4000 ft gain in 50 miles), lowest was on a short ride down to the mail box and back .

Some day I'd like to try some REAL climbing.
tntyz is offline  
Old 04-20-09, 06:08 PM
  #30  
climber has-been
 
terrymorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Palo Alto, CA
Posts: 7,408

Bikes: Scott Addict R1, Felt Z1

Liked 3,922 Times in 1,937 Posts
Originally Posted by rooftest
Less than a 2% grade? That's not very hard...
Um, 100 ft/mile is a very hilly route. Anything above 100 ft/mile is something special.
__________________
Ride, Rest, Repeat. ROUVY: terrymorse


terrymorse is offline  
Old 04-20-09, 06:11 PM
  #31  
Raptor Custom Bicycles
 
ZXiMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,433

Bikes: Raptor Bicycles... Fully custom carbon bikes... just the way you want them!

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by **brian**
How much climbing do you do, in terms of feet/mile? Not on individual rides, but overall, over the course of the year?

Sometimes I get jealous when I see posts from BF'ers in California or other places with serious hills/mountains... but I'm curious how that translates over a whole season.

Here in the NYC area, I'm averaging 56 feet/mile so far this year (96000 feet, 1700 miles). I'm using a Garmin 305 & compiling the stats in Ascent.

What are your numbers like?
I'm certainly not the climbing type, but I average around 300,000 to 360,000 feet per year (in about 10,000 miles).
__________________

2010 Raptor Series 7

Raptor Bicycles of Texas
Fully custom carbon bikes
940-442-3344
ZXiMan is offline  
Old 04-20-09, 06:14 PM
  #32  
Raptor Custom Bicycles
 
ZXiMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,433

Bikes: Raptor Bicycles... Fully custom carbon bikes... just the way you want them!

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by terrymorse
Um, 100 ft/mile is a very hilly route. Anything above 100 ft/mile is something special.
Yeah, at our house in New Mexico there is a 1.1 mile loop that runs around the side of the neighborhood (if you wanna call it that) and it's 180 feet of climbing. It's rather brutal.
__________________

2010 Raptor Series 7

Raptor Bicycles of Texas
Fully custom carbon bikes
940-442-3344
ZXiMan is offline  
Old 04-20-09, 06:18 PM
  #33  
umd
Banned
 
umd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 28,387

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac SL2, Specialized Tarmac SL, Giant TCR Composite, Specialized StumpJumper Expert HT

Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Note the difference between grade and route.For a single grade 100 ft/mile would not be very much, sure, but for a ride that ends where it starts, or any conglomeration of rides, 100 ft/mile is a pretty good amount of climbing...
umd is offline  
Old 04-20-09, 06:46 PM
  #34  
Senior Member
 
JonnyHK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: London
Posts: 2,420

Bikes: Baum Romano, Brompton S2, Homemade Bamboo!

Liked 204 Times in 129 Posts
From the Garmin stats so far for this year...19.4 metres per kilometre, or 102.6 feet per mile. All off it slow.

There are hills every direction I go. Hong Kong is like that.
JonnyHK is offline  
Old 04-20-09, 07:07 PM
  #35  
Recovering mentalist
 
Randochap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: On the Edge
Posts: 2,810

Bikes: Too many

Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Average around 35ft/mi locally.
Randochap is offline  
Old 04-20-09, 07:18 PM
  #36  
Roadkill
 
byte_speed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 858

Bikes: 2002 Lightspeed Classic; 2010 Pedalforce RS

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by terrymorse
Um, 100 ft/mile is a very hilly route. Anything above 100 ft/mile is something special.
I wish. I've averaged 85 ft/mi this year with a high = 154 ft/mi & low = 35 ft/mi. The tallest hill I have climbed is 200 ft vertical. The low came when I had a sore knee and rode back in forth in a valley near home to avoid climbing. Lots of rollers around here.
byte_speed is offline  
Old 04-20-09, 08:59 PM
  #37  
Despite all my rage, I am
 
rooftest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 2,613

Bikes: LeMond Zurich, Colnago C-50

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by terrymorse
Um, 100 ft/mile is a very hilly route. Anything above 100 ft/mile is something special.
Running a 10-minute mile is "something special" to some, too - that doesn't mean it is very impressive.
rooftest is offline  
Old 04-20-09, 09:27 PM
  #38  
umd
Banned
 
umd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 28,387

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac SL2, Specialized Tarmac SL, Giant TCR Composite, Specialized StumpJumper Expert HT

Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by rooftest
Running a 10-minute mile is "something special" to some, too - that doesn't mean it is very impressive.
Your point?
umd is offline  
Old 04-20-09, 09:29 PM
  #39  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 8,546
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Interesting thread.

Sporttracks tells me I averaged 53'/mile last year.

I like hills and seek them out. I would have expected a higher number. I guess it's polluted by all those flat rides I do when the weather doesn't cooperate or I only have a couple of hours. It's just not very hilly here. There's big mountain climbs, and flats, but nothing in between.
valygrl is offline  
Old 04-20-09, 09:57 PM
  #40  
Senior Member
 
Ratfish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Mle Island
Posts: 1,016
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
So, umd...what gear ratio are you in during what you would consider to be an average climb? I have a slight climb at the end of my rides and in 39x23 I get wiped out quickly...I'd be really impressed if you were climbing that much in that ratio.
Ratfish is offline  
Old 04-21-09, 12:52 AM
  #41  
It's ALL base...
 
DScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 6,716
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by rooftest
Less than a 2% grade? That's not very hard...
As an average over 102 miles, or 114 miles, it sure feels hard to me.
DScott is offline  
Old 04-21-09, 12:58 AM
  #42  
Senior Member
 
Tariq08's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 856

Bikes: Felt F4

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by umd
feet you idiot.
lmfao
Tariq08 is offline  
Old 04-21-09, 01:15 AM
  #43  
Randomhead
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
Posts: 24,659
Liked 3,893 Times in 2,653 Posts
I'm trying to figure out how much extra time I should budget for a mountain. I ride with lights and reflective gear, but my wife got a little upset when I was out lost in Central Pa about 40 miles from home at 9:30 at night. There were a few thousand feet of climbing I hadn't really planned for.
unterhausen is offline  
Old 04-21-09, 07:07 AM
  #44  
Smell something fishy?
 
RedHerring's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by **brian**
How much climbing do you do
Lots
RedHerring is offline  
Old 04-21-09, 07:21 AM
  #45  
umd
Banned
 
umd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 28,387

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac SL2, Specialized Tarmac SL, Giant TCR Composite, Specialized StumpJumper Expert HT

Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by Ratfish
So, umd...what gear ratio are you in during what you would consider to be an average climb? I have a slight climb at the end of my rides and in 39x23 I get wiped out quickly...I'd be really impressed if you were climbing that much in that ratio.
I typically use 53/39 with an 11-26 or 11-23. I don't always use the 26 but if it's a long 8%+ climb I'll usually use it if I have it. A lot depends on speed though, when I did my PR run my local 3 mile 8% TT climb last year I was in 39x21.
umd is offline  
Old 04-21-09, 10:05 AM
  #46  
Senior Member
 
Terex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 7600' Northern New Mexico
Posts: 3,686

Bikes: Specialized 6Fattie, Parlee Z5, Scott Addict

Liked 43 Times in 27 Posts
I typically average about 60'/mile here in NJ. The farther north and west you go, the hillier it gets. Very few epic climbs in terms of distance until you get into PA, but many epic climbs in terms of gradient (15%+).

Last weekend we rode north of Clinton, NJ and did 5K ft. in 54 miles, with the biggest single hill maybe 500' vertical gain. The poopy Garmin 305 pooped out again, so I didn't get full stats. I've got to wrap it with a new rubber band.

Edit: Here's one of the hills we rode, with stats from Ken Roberts fine compendium at https://www.roberts-1.com/b/u/nj/hill..._for_the_hills

Coleman Hill + Bickel Rd, Vertical Ft. Steep Section: 120; Steep Grade Section: 15+%; Total Climb - 625'

Last edited by Terex; 04-21-09 at 10:20 AM.
Terex is offline  
Old 04-21-09, 10:23 AM
  #47  
Pepperoni Power
 
ROJA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Oaklandish
Posts: 1,667
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Since January 1, I'm at about 93 ft/mile.

I once read about a riding group that equated each 1000 feet of climbing to an additional 5 miles (assuming the whole ride was flat). For example, a 40-mile ride with 4000 ft of climbing would be roughly equivalent to a flat 60-mile ride. I have no idea how close this estimate would be in terms of total power output (or any other measure of your choosing) required.

EDIT: I once did a flat 70-mile ride around Lake Tahoe (only 2600 feet of climbing) and averaged about 17.5 mph (although I was probably slowed down a bit due to the higher elevation of the ride). At the same time, I could only average about 14 mph on shorter local (hillier) rides. That means that in about 4 hours of riding time, I could ride either 70 miles with 2600 feet of climbing or 50 miles with 5000 feet of climbing. Looks like my experience roughly approximates the 5 miles flat = 1000 ft of climbing rule of thumb!

Last edited by ROJA; 04-21-09 at 10:50 AM.
ROJA is offline  
Old 04-21-09, 12:48 PM
  #48  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Chilltown
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Question for you folks in the 80+ feet/mile range: do your recovery rides have less climbing? or are you way up there all the time? (or don't do recovery rides?)

My recovery-pace rides tend to be more like 40 ft/mile, and account for about 15% of my miles each week. I also do hill workouts that are 90-100 ft/mile, but lower volume - usually just one 25-mile ride every other week or so. Combined, the recovery rides & hill workouts come out very close to my overall average...
**brian** is offline  
Old 04-21-09, 01:08 PM
  #49  
crazy bike girl
 
msincredible's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: CA Central Coast
Posts: 3,325

Bikes: '07 Orbea Onix, '07 Birdy Yellow, '06 Cannondale Bad Boy (stolen)

Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by **brian**
Question for you folks in the 80+ feet/mile range: do your recovery rides have less climbing? or are you way up there all the time? (or don't do recovery rides?)
I'm up there almost all the time because of where I live now. I usually only do flatter rides on my folding bicycle when traveling somewhere.
__________________
Countries I've ridden in: US, Canada, Ireland, UK, Germany, Netherlands, France, China, Singapore, Malaysia
States I've ridden in: Illinois, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, California, Nevada, Missouri, Colorado
msincredible is offline  
Old 04-21-09, 01:19 PM
  #50  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Moraga, CA
Posts: 1,701

Bikes: 2008 Cervelo RS, 2011 Scott CR1 Elite, 2014 Volagi Liscio

Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Normally, it's been about 75'/mile for ~2300 miles a year
RoboCheme is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.