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Sit or stand up?

Old 04-23-09, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by daredevil View Post
If you are not at least capable of doing a sustained ride standing, you aren't in shape is my feeling.
That really doesn't answer the question at all. And is barely relevant.
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I think you should also mix it up but if you are shorter (Lance) you should stand more then if you are taller (Ullrich).

+1 on the sitting build legs mucles better because standing is aided by gravity.
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Depends if you're a guy or a girl.

If you don't know by now, we can't help you.
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Originally Posted by recursive View Post
That really doesn't answer the question at all. And is barely relevant.
Didn't know my mother worked on this forum.

You somehow feel a need to make sure all threads keep exactly on topic? Good luck with that dude.

I might add than when you talk about relevant, you might want to consider what you post. At least I talked about riding for chrissake.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse View Post
Mix it up. Stand a little, sit a little, repeat.

You'll avoid muscle fatigue and help preserve your butt. And mixing it up will get you up the hill faster than just sitting or just standing.
Yeah that.
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Originally Posted by morphius View Post
What is the right technic when you go up hill? I find that I get very tired standing up for longer time. I even get lower back pain.
Is standing up while pedaling is better? My friends tell me I have to be standing. What do you think?
Your friends are wrong. Climbing out of saddle is better if you know the remaining distance of the climb, and if you want to give an extra push to summit the climb faster. Apart from that, you should NOT be climbing out-of-saddle, as it's a significant waste of energy.

Are your friends mountain bikers?
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Originally Posted by artifice View Post
Sitting in the climb will be of more benefit to strengthening your legs.
Actually, climbing out of saddle helps work all areas of the body, whereas sitting is more aerobic.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse View Post
Mix it up. Stand a little, sit a little, repeat.

You'll avoid muscle fatigue and help preserve your butt. And mixing it up will get you up the hill faster than just sitting or just standing.
+1

Switching between sitting and standing works different groups of muscles differently, allowing one set a little rest while the other works. I used to always try to sit for climbs (mainly canyons), one day i started the canyon standing up and made it half the way up before i started to feel tired and sat. I found that when i sat down i had a little more energy and could keep going instead of having to slow down. Ever since then i've been a fan of mixing it up.

Make sure when you're standing that you shift up a gear so that your cadence slows down a little (or at least this is true for me a high cadence standing wears me out).

example-While sitting my cadence is around 95-100 and comfortable, standing climbing up a canyon it's more like 45-50.
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Originally Posted by MrCrassic View Post
Your friends are wrong. Climbing out of saddle is better if you know the remaining distance of the climb, and if you want to give an extra push to summit the climb faster. Apart from that, you should NOT be climbing out-of-saddle, as it's a significant waste of energy.

Are your friends mountain bikers?
Yes they are!!!
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Originally Posted by MrCrassic View Post
Your friends are wrong. Climbing out of saddle is better if you know the remaining distance of the climb, and if you want to give an extra push to summit the climb faster. Apart from that, you should NOT be climbing out-of-saddle, as it's a significant waste of energy.
Like I said, a lot of bad advice in his thread...
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All I know is that when I am killing myself doing sprint repeats out of the sadlle on Trash Truck this one guy always takes offense and goes by me sitting .
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I like to stand up and do one legged drills. Mans game.
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The best climbers stand much more often and for longer periods than the lessor climbers (as a general rule), so what does that teach us?

Unfortunately for many, their body type will not allow sustained out of saddle climbing and they must accept the "set and spin" option
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Originally Posted by daredevil View Post
If you are not at least capable of doing a sustained ride standing, you aren't in shape is my feeling.
What does this mean? A "sustained ride"?
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Originally Posted by Romans8:28 View Post
The best climbers stand much more often and for longer periods than the lessor climbers (as a general rule), so what does that teach us?
The lesson I'd take from it is I'm not one of the best climbers....
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Stand to power over humps. Sit to climb longer, but mix it up to "keep the blood flowing."
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Originally Posted by Naterider View Post
I like to stand up and do one legged drills. Mans game.
I like to do my standing one legged drills no handed.
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my advice is to not take our advice

on a serious note: climbing means too many things to too many people. you might talk to someone who thinks the little hill at the north end of central park is climbing. the next person might only be interested in climbs that last 40 minutes. the simple fact of the matter is that you need to learn all techniques.
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Originally Posted by kwrides View Post
What does this mean? A "sustained ride"?
Uh, lengthy, prolonged, to keep up, more than a short distance. I suppose I should have said the ability to climb standing for a sustained period. Better?
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It is also highly dependent on grade. I am typically trying to sit on the lesser grade sections and standing on the steeper. Like other have stated, mixing it works the best for me.
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Originally Posted by Brandy View Post
Yeah that.
Except when you ride with Brandy. The method I use is to sit, stand, and then collapse...repeat.
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...Stand up for the heights...
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Originally Posted by umd View Post
Like I said, a lot of bad advice in his thread...
i agree with that one...its bs to say you should NOT be climbing out of the saddle at all...


but whats kinda funny is that i swear in one of lances books (i think the first) he talks about never climbing out of the saddle...and if he did on training rides than coach would remind him to sit...then you watch the video and hes all over the place...maybe just a training technique?
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(Sit down, stand up.

Walk into the jaws of hell.)

Do what works for you.

I'm used to standing and powering up climbs, but I blow pretty easily doing that if I'm not careful so I've been sitting in a little more and trying to get a rhythm going.

If you're uncomfortable sitting in, then something's wrong. Standing is great to relieve the pressure on your ass every once in a while, and give the rest of your body a go at it.

To the people who are saying that you can't accelerate seated, have you tried shifting to an easier gear and just revving up your cadence to get a kick?

When I attack in a race on a climb, I sit and spin for a second so people don't realize that I'm going to attack. Then I'd stand when a I'm about half a bike length-a bike length away. You look like you're going to attack if you stand up and start drilling it.
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