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How does my reach look on this bike?

Old 04-27-09, 06:44 PM
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How does my reach look on this bike?

I posted this before but got mostly answers about my legs, I'm not so concerned with the legs, it was a test bike I think the seat might have been a bit far back.

Either way how does the fit look as far as the length of the frame goes. My head seems like it's lining up just over the steerer tube which I heard is about where it should be. It felt pretty comfortable, much better than my current bike; but just curious what you all think. The bike in the picture has a 100mm stem and I'll be running more compact bars. So I'm just really curious if you think the frame looks too big.











FWIW I race, and definitely have been told by several people that I can recruit some more flexibility from my lower back.

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Old 04-27-09, 06:47 PM
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I would say a little stretched out, but for racing & short distances it would be okay.
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Your arms seem to me to be a little to streched out[straight] , I believe a slight bend at the elbows is better.Maybe top tube is to long or you need a smaller stem?
 
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Bend your elbows and roll your hips forward a little.

With compact bars I think the length will be about perfect.

What size is that bike?
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Well this is a 54, ideally someone my height (5'10") would be on a 56cm roughly... I have short torso and/or short arms. 52's feeling a bit small. I don't recall how long these bars are on this test bike, the bike with I'm buying has a 90mm reach in the bars which is way too long. I'll be running 100mm stem with 75mm reach bars.

I have some bend in my arms on the hoods there, I thought that was enough bend, should I have more bend like I do when I'm in the drops? I've also found lately with my new antares saddle I'm much more comfortable rolling my hips forward because it doesn't push on my "junk" like the Arione did.

If this frame looks to be slightly on the longer side I can live with that because my main focus is racing. I'd like to continue running the 100mm stem for handling reasons but if for some reason I wanted to get more upright I could run a 90mm stem.
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Old 04-27-09, 06:57 PM
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I think you'll be ok with shorter reach bars, certainly wouldn't want to go to a 52.
Looking at the geo, that would be a perfect size for me and I'm a couple inches shorter, though more evenly proportioned.

In the above pics try to get your on the hoods position as low as your in the drops position, then when you're in the drops try to get a 90° bend in your elbows.
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Seat looks an inch too high.
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Just wanted to add, you have kind of a "Zoolander" thing going on in the second pic
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Hard to tell from the photo, but I'm wondering if narrower bars might help, too.
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Originally Posted by MONGO! View Post
I think you'll be ok with shorter reach bars, certainly wouldn't want to go to a 52.
Looking at the geo, that would be a perfect size for me and I'm a couple inches shorter, though more evenly proportioned.

In the above pics try to get your on the hoods position as low as your in the drops position, then when you're in the drops try to get a 90° bend in your elbows.
Interesting, yah all the 54s fit me like that and custom is out of the question at this point. Like I said when I took it out for a 20 mile test ride I just noticed I felt comfortable just being on the hoods for the first time ever. I don't feel like the 56 is terribly too long, It's just after awhile I have to get out of the hoods or sit towards the back of them. When I'm really in the zone I seem to be able to open up my back and be totally comfortable, the Arione has really been hurting me as far as rolling my hips forward goes too.

I'm just nervous because I made my decision on the bike but have 4 weeks till I pick it up so of course my mind is running back and forth right now thinking "did I make the right decision, is this bike way off fit wise".
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Old 04-27-09, 07:07 PM
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If the seats too high, then that will bring me in a bit when it's properly adjusted not to mention I'm running more spacers on the one I'm actually buying. It didn't help that the bars I test road the actual frame I'm buying had around an inch plus of reach on them compared to what I'll be running.

Willing running narrower bars bring in the reach slightly? I run 42 right now but am open to going with 40's, I figure having narrower bars can't hurt in crits, what do you all think?
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Originally Posted by fauxto nick View Post
Interesting, yah all the 54s fit me like that and custom is out of the question at this point. Like I said when I took it out for a 20 mile test ride I just noticed I felt comfortable just being on the hoods for the first time ever. I don't feel like the 56 is terribly too long, It's just after awhile I have to get out of the hoods or sit towards the back of them. When I'm really in the zone I seem to be able to open up my back and be totally comfortable, the Arione has really been hurting me as far as rolling my hips forward goes too.

I'm just nervous because I made my decision on the bike but have 4 weeks till I pick it up so of course my mind is running back and forth right now thinking "did I make the right decision, is this bike way off fit wise".
Well, the 52 is only 1cm shorter in the top tube, so it's not that much of a difference and shorter reach bars or shorter stem will put you in the same position length wise but you'll likely have more drop on a 52.

Either way you should work on your flexibility a lower position will help you be more aero and produce more power by taking the weight of your arms and putting it into your legs.
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Originally Posted by MONGO! View Post
Well, the 52 is only 1cm shorter in the top tube, so it's not that much of a difference and shorter reach bars or shorter stem will put you in the same position length wise but you'll likely have more drop on a 52.

Either way you should work on your flexibility a lower position will help you be more aero and produce more power by taking the weight of your arms and putting it into your legs.
Yah I def don't need anymore drop, just shorter reach... Sometimes I wake up and get on my 56 1500 and I honestly feel like 80% of this reach problem is on my side, not the length of the bike. Like in that pic I definitely was bending about oh I'd say %60-70 of what I'm capable of in a race or hard training session.

Like I said I think I might be over analyzing this because when I got on the first 54cm test System Six I remember saying "omg this is perfect", and the sales man fitting me said, yea this is right on just needs some tweaks.

I just wanted to run the picture on here again just incase people were like "holy crap that is way off!". The salesman said that with the current bars (not the bike in this picture) the bike had a bit of a reach on it but with regular compact bars this would be a perfect reach. A lot of people have been telling me that if my goal is racing and I'm going for speed and power that I need to get comfortable with the reach and work on my flexibility.
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Old 04-27-09, 07:25 PM
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Is the bike level? Looks raised at the fron to me. Could make a slight difference in how you feel/appear.
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I guess those are the stock Cannondale C3 bars? If you want to shorten the reach, check out FSA Wing or Salsa Short 'N Shallow - The latter has an anatomic bend, if you like that..
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Looks like it would be fine if you bent your elbows a bit. Going down to a 52 would be too small.
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If your saddle height is too high (which I believe it is), then that's going to make the reach look more awkward. Bring the saddle down a cm or two and then you might find the reach, drop and everything else about the upper body fit falls into place.
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I currently have the Easton EA70 bars which as far as the specs go are the shortest reach bars on the market. I really like the 3T Ergonova Pro bars which visually appear shorter than the Eastons and do have a shallower drop. I'm thinking about grabbing a pair of those in 40 and see if that helps. I'm just more concerned if the frame looks like it fits appropriately.
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I think you look ok. It's tough to judge from a couple pictures. Take the bike outside for a 20 mile spin and adjust if needed.
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Your front wheel is slightly higher than the rear, so your reach will be a little more than it is on the trainer.

It doesn't look too bad to me, though you might like a shorter stem.

With your bar change, things should be fine though.
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how does your reach feel on that bike?
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In the first picture it looks like you are way too stretched out/too far back. It looks like you are straining to reach the hoods and your arms are way too straight.
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Originally Posted by dmb2786 View Post
how does your reach feel on that bike?
It felt great, it felt like it could be maybe... I don't know a half an inch closer to me with those bars, I don't know what the reach was on those bars and if my EA70's or some Ergonova's would bring it in more.
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Originally Posted by umd View Post
In the first picture it looks like you are way too stretched out/too far back. It looks like you are straining to reach the hoods and your arms are way too straight.
You think the seats too far back or the frame is just too big?
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Hard to believe a 54.5 TT would be too long for you, at 5'10".

My bike is a 54 TT, I'm running compact bars (3T Ergosum) and a 110mm stem and it still feels on the short side.
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