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Old 04-30-09, 06:42 PM
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Specialized Avatar Gel saddle

Picked up a Specialized Avatar Gel saddle in a 143 width. Anybody have one? LBS measured me and recommended it for my road riding and commuting. $80 later, I hope he is right. I've got it on the bike and I think I have it in the right place - mid rail, and with a slight upward tilt, very slight.

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Old 04-30-09, 07:42 PM
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I have 2.5 of them and love them. I say .5 because one is on loan to my father...he didn't like it though so I will be getting it back. I ride the Toupe on my Neo Exile and the Avatar on my CX bike anbd fixed gear.
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i used to have that exact same saddle

went into mikes bikes, got measured, the guy said my sit bones were 120mm and said gave me the 145mm i didnt even think that they might have a narrower one until i got home. it's very cushy for a performance road saddle, it would occasionally bunch up my shorts and cause numbness but if i stood up every 10 minutes or so i'd be ok.

my local bike store had a sale on their saddles with a no questions asked return policy so i tried out the selle italia SLK, even with the intention that i'd probably return it, it felt so much better i ended up keeping it.


of course with saddles, results will vary
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Had one that came with my Roubaix Elite. Hated it. Replaced it temporarily with an old Bontrager I had lying around. Too bad I didn't know sooner, I sold mine for $50 on Craigs List.

That said, saddles are one of those things that will be completely different from person to person, so if you dig it, then enjoy.
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I have 2 of those and they're pretty good in regular pants

but I prefer the alias when using proper gear.
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Old 05-01-09, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AEO View Post
I have 2 of those and they're pretty good in regular pants

but I prefer the alias when using proper gear.
How come?
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Old 05-01-09, 08:43 AM
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Good saddle. I use that exact one every day on my lynskey.
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Old 05-01-09, 09:26 AM
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alias is firmer.

avatar is a bit too soft.
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One came on my Roubaix Elite. Loved it after 10 miles; ignored it after 20 miles; hated it after 30 miles; replaced it after 40 miles when I got home from my first ride. Put on a 30-year-old Ideale Competition 90 leather saddle and have been happy since. Yes, saddles are a very personal thing. Just put on a Brooks B-17 on the bike I stole the Ideale from. Only rode it a few miles tonight. MUCH worse than my Ideale. Maybe in 30 years it, too, will feel great. Not sure any plastic/gel saddle gets better with age; the rider acclimates in that case, not the saddle.
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Old 05-01-09, 08:27 PM
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I have one on my Specialized Roubaix and am quite happy with it. May switch to an Alias or Toupe if it wears out, just because they are lighter.
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I have one on both my road bike and mtb. And am thinking about a 3rd for my vintage KHS road bike. Just haven't decided if I want to spend the money to try the Alias for the TCR or not.

AEO: How much firmer is the Alias?

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like punching dough to punching clay?
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Originally Posted by Paul Y. View Post
Good saddle. I use that exact one every day on my lynskey.
I have an Avatar 143 and think it is very good for up to 40 miles or so. Whether it is good for long distance rides I do not know.
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Old 05-02-09, 04:21 AM
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Bought the Avatar yesterday. Rode 20 miles and like it so far. WIll run around 40 miles today. We'll see... So far so good
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Have one on my Roubaix as well. Nice saddle. Longest ride I've done with it was 45 miles but that was quite comfortable. Not sure how longer rides will pan out, but usually for me, if it's good after 30 miles, it's as good as any other saddle.
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I've got three alias saddles, one avatar (and a toupe on the way). All of them are non gel. I much prefer the Alias over the Avatar. I can sit on the Alias for hours and hours without pain. The Avatar starts to get to me after about an hour.
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Old 05-08-09, 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by billydonn View Post
I have an Avatar 143 and think it is very good for up to 40 miles or so. Whether it is good for long distance rides I do not know.
I have two of these, bought a third one today. This is the most comfortable saddle I have used so far, after trying a Bontrager, couple of WTB Rocket V etc. Although after a 300km brevet, I did have a little bit of soreness; but I think that could be attributed to not enough saddle time yet this year.
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napoleoninrags - wow, well, that's says something! I think it's safe to say I'll never ride an event with so many miles. I'll be happy to rack up 75 miles in a single ride this year.

Due to a wheel being fixed for my main ride, I'm trying this saddle this morning on my old steel bike. I'm really looking forward to it.
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Old 05-08-09, 04:36 AM
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I buy one for every bike. Currently own four.

Haven't found anything better, but I'm giving a Selle SMP a shot this week.
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I returned the Avatar and tried the Alias. I also felt the Avatar started to get a little uncomfortable after about an hour or so. But that's just me. I like the Alias, it is very comfortable.
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Had a nice ride in this morning on the old steel bike with this saddle. I just tweaked the fit a little. I had raised the seat post too much to compensate for the old seat's padding. I also slide it forward a touch. The rise home should be just right but I'll keep my wrench handy just in case I'm off a mm ... :-)

I will need another modern road saddle like this one. I'm liking it so far but may withhold judgment after I do a long ride. The weekend weather is asking me to ride 50 miles but Mother's Day is trying to interrupt by biking plans.
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Everyone's different. I kinda liked my avatar, but then found after I was riding 50+miles it became a hatchet for me. Turned out that my butt prefers flatter, firmer saddles, so I'm riding a Fizik Antares these days.

For my $0.02 you need to spend a significant amount of time with a saddle to work out if it's just right. Not just distance covered in a single ride, but tweaking position/angle too.
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Well if anyone is interested, I have an Avatar Gel (black) at home in 143 size. Sale/trade.
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Old 05-08-09, 08:25 AM
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Beaker - That's interesting. So if a saddle has too much cushion, then you sink to low and the center feels too high? So then you like something just flatter with no sinking? I wasn't understanding what others were saying about the cushion being uncomfortable. Do I have this right?

BMWEngineer06 - how much do you want for it?
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Sort of. Over longer distances, you do sink into the padding, effectively changing the shape of the saddle/changing the pressure points. For me, my backside didn't like the raised rear part of the saddle and also limited me to sitting in one position. With the flatter saddles I find I can scoot around more easily into different positions - rolling forward in the drops, sitting back for climbs etc. without feeling like the saddle doesn't want me there.

Like I said though, that's just what works for me.
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