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Giro Atmos--HEAVY!

Old 10-11-05, 12:21 PM
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Speaking of the bleeding edge that I referred to on 08/09... this weekend I managed to destory my Bell Ghisallo:

https://www.basaltic.com/photos/crashhelmetsir100k/

REI had the Pneumo on sale (same weight, better color, and in stock), so trying that out, hoping I'll be on the bike again in a couple days.
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Rabobank Atmos, mmmm, just picked one up two weeks ago.
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Originally Posted by Wurm
Then go look at a Decibel - pretty "open" if you axe me. Cools great, fits nice, looks good, and mine tastes like lemons.

The Giro Boreas in this picture is size L and weighs 350 gm., but I've had to belatedly retire it after about 6 years of fine service and one big fat head-on argument with a very solid rock. The rock won - the Boreas cracked. But my gourd didn't.

The Decibel is also size L and weighs 354 gm., sans visor.
thats right, Im still supposed to hate you for having that helmet!

RAR! It fit me soo perfectley!

how is it working out for you?
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There is really no reason to suspect that the higher priced helmets offer any more protection. In fact, some pretty convincing arguments have been made that cheaper helmets tend to protect better.

Me? I'm rocking a 252gram Bell Arc.

$29. I see them on sale for $20.
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Originally Posted by ExMachina
did I really just drop $200 for style? I think I'm going to be sick

I bet if you puked, you'd lose those extra ounces, AND you'd look good.
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What did you weigh it with, and when was that last calibrated
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Originally Posted by ExMachina
Giroís website lists the Atmos as weighing 8.5 oz (which Iím sure is an average weight based on multiple sizes). But they also list the Eclipse (my old helmet) as weighing 9 oz, which is MUCH closer to what my size large Eclipse actually weights (10oz).
Note that all helmet weights from Giro and Bell I've seen are for a small helmet. Every Giro helmet I looked at had the estimated # of grams printed on a label inside of the actual helmet.
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Originally Posted by garlo
I had the opportunity to test out the Giro Atmos in a local crit over the weekend when two gentlemen right in front of me in the center of the pack decided to cross wheels at 25+ on a straightaway. When I was in the emergency room the attending doctor, while examining my separated AC clavicle, asked if I hit my head . I told him no. Although I was a little dazed after the crash. When I arrived home I checked out my helmet and noticed some scratches on the side. Upon further examination I found two cracks in the foam lining where I imagined the impact occurred. I originally bought the Atmos for the weight, the venting, the reputation and yes the Rabobank version matched my clubs colors. If the couple of extra ounces of weight went into improving the shell reinforcement, as it turns out for me, it was worth it. I will be replacing the helmet with the exact same model through the Giro crash replacement warranty. The cost is 30% off the list price. Like the Visa commericial, Giro helmet... $130, head still intact... priceless.
Before you drop another $130, I recommend you read this website. They indicate cheap Walmart helmets are safer.
https://www.helmets.org/helmet05.htm
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Originally Posted by ExMachina
Well, I made the mistake this morning of weighing my brand spanking new Giro Atmos helmet (large)ó11.5 oz!!!!!!! Thatís heavier than the two other large helmets I own (Giro Eclipse and a $20 Bell something-or other)!!!

Giroís website lists the Atmos as weighing 8.5 oz (which Iím sure is an average weight based on multiple sizes). But they also list the Eclipse (my old helmet) as weighing 9 oz, which is MUCH closer to what my size large Eclipse actually weights (10oz).

Iím kind of ticked off right now, if you canít tell. I feel like Iíve been a little duped--did I really just drop $200 for style? I think I'm going to be sick
Wow...stunned by this news I sent mine to an independent lab (my niece is starting her PhD in physics, so they put it on the "special scale"), and I also called L'Equipe to look in....

11.5 ounces for my large helmet...L'Equipe is launching an investigation into helmet weights and advertising...

Seriously...the weight they publish is for a small. Remember a couple of years ago, the big campaign Cannondale was waging on "Legalize my Cannondale"....the Six/13 was "too light for UCI standards..."?? The weight they were talking about was Simoni's frame which, if my memory is decent, is 48cm (he's like a jockey). I got the same frame in a 60cm with Dura Ace on it, it was a little over 16 pounds.
Whew...I was nervous...

I like the Atmos due to the carbon in the top. I like the extra strength (without extra weight) where my control system is concerned.
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Old 10-11-05, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by puddin' legs
My helmet was heavy, so I lost 10 lbs...Then it felt lighter.

Exactly!
I bought my Atmos much different reasons.
It matched my bike~
and bonus....it was an '04 leftover at half the price.
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Haha, I bought my atmos because it matched my bike too. I have the Fassa Atmos and my bike is blue and silver. Go figure (along with silver/gray DA cables, Silver bar tape, blue tires)
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I really love the look of the atmos but got a virtually free pneumo (small) with the purchase of my new bike. I have no idea what it actually weighs compaired to a small atmos, but I hardly notice I'm wearing it. Bottom line though is if the fit isn't right, if it isn't one of the safer helmets for your bowl of noodles, then either don't buy it or buy some pasta sauce with it.
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Originally Posted by recursive
Me? I'm rocking a 252gram Bell Arc.

$29. I see them on sale for $20.
I use the same helmet. Great helmet for the price.
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Originally Posted by hi565
thats right, Im still supposed to hate you for having that helmet!

RAR! It fit me soo perfectley!

how is it working out for you?
It's been a great lid so far. No issues at all. The good thing was I got it at shop cost.
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Holy crap! Where did this thread come from?!

Halloween's a few weeks off, and you guys are already raising the dead!

Since this thread has boomeranged, I'd like to state for the record that I have since gotten over my sticker-shock/false advertising hissy-fit and I absolutely **love** my Atmos
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Old 10-11-05, 06:36 PM
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FWIW just weighed my large Pneumo, 330 grams, 336 (stamped in the helmet).

At Weight Weenies, large Atmos weighed 327 and advertised at 319.

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/li...p?type=helmets
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Originally Posted by CardiacKid
Before you drop another $130, I recommend you read this website. They indicate cheap Walmart helmets are safer.
https://www.helmets.org/helmet05.htm
I could not find where they say that Walmart helmets are safer. However, they speculate that less vents (less expensive) are better, but offer no proof or test data. In fact, they admit that they have not tested out their theory. Why offer unproven theories to the public? I am a design engineer. I work with a bunch of folks that come up with theories all day. These theories are proved wrong or right by testing. It is a very humbling job to say the least. You learn to shut up and test! Then you can talk.

CardiacKid, this is not directed at you, but at this lazy organization that doesn't mind spouting their mouth off without the facts.
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Originally Posted by texascyclist
I could not find where they say that Walmart helmets are safer. However, they speculate that less vents (less expensive) are better, but offer no proof or test data.
He might be referring to this page they link to (which was based on Consumer Reports tests in 2002):

https://www.helmets.org/cu_2002.htm

Some lines:

"The only model rated excellent for impact is a youth helmet, the Specialized Air Wave Mega, a $35 model rated as a Best Buy."

"Price was not an indicator of impact protection, since the top [rated by safety] models were mostly much cheaper than the lower rated ones."

...and they show their lack of objectivity:

"But in fact we believe that some of the most protective helmets are out there in the discount stores at prices from ten to twenty dollars. At least the message was clear that higher prices do not mean more protection."
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I just picked up an atamos for 136$ and i love it it ways 285g mine is medium , i heard that the Specialized decibel are amazing as well .
50 to a 100 g difference here and ther is not that much anyways.
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I can't believe the Specialized Decibel is 350+ grams, I have held a Specialized S1 (the 2003 model the Decibel replaced) and my mountain bike helmet in two hands side by side, and the Specialized felt at least 75g lighter. My mountain helmet is 357g.
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Originally Posted by KirkeIsWaiting
Exactly!
I bought my Atmos much different reasons.
It matched my bike~

I bought a Rabobank to match my track bike for style. I loved the feel and the the ventaliation so much taht i bought the Fasso Bortolo to match my Mountain bike. I'm not worried about the 4 ounces, cuz i just doubled my cumulative helmet wieght.
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Are you sure your scale is accurate? Mine weighs 283 gr.

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Originally Posted by texascyclist
I could not find where they say that Walmart helmets are safer. However, they speculate that less vents (less expensive) are better, but offer no proof or test data. In fact, they admit that they have not tested out their theory. Why offer unproven theories to the public? I am a design engineer. I work with a bunch of folks that come up with theories all day. These theories are proved wrong or right by testing. It is a very humbling job to say the least. You learn to shut up and test! Then you can talk.

CardiacKid, this is not directed at you, but at this lazy organization that doesn't mind spouting their mouth off without the facts.
No, I read that also in several places--including Consumer Reports. The rational is that the thicker styrofoam may offer better protection...

My head is smaller than the smallest adult helmet, so I didn't have much choice but to go with a youth helmet. It received a high rating, was only $14 on sale at Walmart, and has cute little bears all over it!
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