Werd. Averaging 25mph isn't THAT big of a deal around here in the land of the flat, but considering how much climbing they do, its crazy how fast they are. Remember, they're scaling 2 mountain ranges.


Short answer to whats fast?: 13 mph....up a 10% grade....for 8-10 miles....after 16 days of riding = 1800 miles.

You realize that was uphill right? What are you trying to prove?

So I completely discounted your previous post and you reply with something irrelevant. Bottom line is even a cat 5 crit will likely be in the mid-to-high 20s. The elite nationals road race last year was I believe 26 mph for over 100 miles and that's on a hilly course without any pros.

You would have to set some constants. Say flat land, no wind, 1 hour, alone.
Then you might be able to estimate what the average working speed would be for a rec rider, cat 5, cat 2, pro.

For me, being a rec rider, would average around 17 mph in the above conditions.

I am slower solo than when drafting...

It's like Tarmacdudes little brother..... or TarmacDude=Mongoosepaver? :eek:

What does that have to do with your previous post about crits? The TdF is an average speed over 3 weeks of riding over various terrains and believe it or not the goal of racing is not to go as fast as possible, it's just to get to the end first. The average speed of the tour really has no bearing on the question of how fast is fast, as fast is much faster than that.

But more importantly, I want to know from where you pulled that "quote" before.

I was reading a book about the history of the tdf and the majority of yrs from the beginning to the current-avg speed around 40k/hr which is about 25mph. When lance won he pushed the avg to about 42h/hr.

actually the very beginning the avg was about 34k/hr which is pretty good considering the bikes looked like single or fixed gear.

move along.

First you said..

And now...


You saying that a 1 hour crit is the same as the entire TdF? :innocent:

Im faster than I use to be...this is all that matters. (hopefully this trend will continue:))

a pronghorn antelope can run a 10K in under 10 minutes, that's fast!

This

I've done cat 5 races that averaged over 25mph and that's the slowest race you'll ever see, son.

There is this nympho I know and see on occasion.

Im fast as #@%

like 16mph.


lol,really.Thats all.

Pretty hilly here. Thats my excuse. :)

Wow...why u trolling?

Every race I have been in this year has been 24-26 mph at a cat 4 level in the flat midwest (read "slow")

+1. And I've seen 26mph in cat5 races as well. At least the one I was able to hang on with dear life.

Maybe a better question would have been what is considered fast for a single rider on flat land with no wind on a road bike riding for 1 hour?

In those conditions, what would be fast for a cat 5 rider? A cat 4, a cat 3, etc.

What would be fast for a pro?

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The mistake most people make is in thinking that race bikes are made to go fast. They're not...they're made to win races. There's a difference.

I read that somewhere...don't remember where, but I liked it.

On the other hand, I'm a 20mph average kinda guy (on good days and centuries...with traffic and whatnot I usually average 16 over my commute, with top speeds around 30+), so I neither win races nor am I fast. But, most of my riding is commuting, or on century rides and the like. I don't actually race anyway.

If you think about race cars, there are different kinds of cars for different purposes. Some are made to go as fast as possible in a straight line and some are made to corner at 200 mph. The ones that are optimized for straight-line speed can't even turn and the ones that corner like they are on rails have so much downforce they sacrifice straight line speed.

In bikes, you have similar concepts... TT bikes that are optimized for speed sacrifice comfort and handling. Bikes that are made to be stiff for sprinting are often heavy and bikes that are optimized for weight are usually not as aerodynamic. It's all tradeoffs, and races are not usually won by TT'ing away from everyone.

What? :twitchy: