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Old 06-02-04, 12:10 PM
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staten island riding?

anyone know anything about staten island? i went out there this weekend, and it looked like it might be a promising place to ride. if anyone can give me any advice on riding out there, i'd appreciate it.
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I grew up there, used to do a lot of road riding and even more mountain biking. But... that was over ten years ago and the population and accompanying traffic has grown to an unbelieveable level. So that's going to be your major concern. That said:

We used to run Arthur Kill Road over on the west shore quite a bit. At the time it was largely wooded, today I think it's mostly townhouses. Back then you could take it from the island's southern tip in Tottenville through Richmondtown, then turn up Snake Hill (which I remember when it was cobblestoned by the way) then ride through the golf course and around the green belt. Today it's still there of course, but I'd be willing to bet that anyone you saw riding up snake hill would actually be attempting suicide. -Maybe you could do it at the crack of dawn on a weekend. Maybe.

Hylan Blvd from the Conference House to around Midland Avenue to Father Capodanno Blvd and around the service road of the expressway takes you over one or more of the island's big hills (Todt, Grymes, etc.) In fact, pretty much any of the major roads, Hylan Blvd, or Amboy Rd for example will get you to the hills. Staten Island's got climbing in spades. But again, the traffic...

Drumgoole Rd (East and West) which is the service road to the Richmond Parkway is also good, rolling hills and maybe the least congested of the ones I've mentioned.

I miss it, it was a great place to grow up, but it's not the same anymore. You really can't go home again.
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Originally Posted by timmhaan
anyone know anything about staten island? i went out there this weekend, and it looked like it might be a promising place to ride. if anyone can give me any advice on riding out there, i'd appreciate it.
Greetings:

I rode in Staten Island this weekend and I like it to a degree. The problem with Staten Island is that it's a "burb" like New Jersey with very little similarity to Manhattan. Therefore, the traffic moves MUCH faster and this bothers me. Transportation Alternatives provides a "bike map" http://www.transalt.org/info/maps.html for Staten Island but take it with a grain of salt. Some of those routes are fast highways like Hyland Blvd that make me feel uncomfortable but you might feel differently.

If you like hills, Staten Island is the place to go. There are plenty of hills there but some of the roads provide no shoulder for bicycles so be wary. The island itself is not like a grid so if you try to stay off the main highway, you end up zig zagging all your way though. I guess the city planners did this to calm the traffic.

You can do what I did and that's to take the train to the last stop and work you're way to the ferry. It's a good ride overall. See the beach and have fun.
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Originally Posted by tortoise
But... that was over ten years ago and the population and accompanying traffic has grown to an unbelieveable level. So that's going to be your major concern. That said:

We used to run Arthur Kill Road over on the west shore quite a bit. At the time it was largely wooded, today I think it's mostly townhouses. Back then you could take it from the island's southern tip in Tottenville through Richmondtown, then turn up Snake Hill (which I remember when it was cobblestoned by the way) then ride through the golf course and around the green belt. Today it's still there of course, but I'd be willing to bet that anyone you saw riding up snake hill would actually be attempting suicide. -Maybe you could do it at the crack of dawn on a weekend. Maybe.
I miss it, it was a great place to grow up, but it's not the same anymore. You really can't go home again.
Good one...

It's amazing that I've lived just 5 miles from Staten Island but visited it for the first time in 20 years last summer. I live in Bayonne but Staten Island is a nice place to live overall. If it weren't for the fact that we now have a lightrail in my town that enabled me to become car free, I would be seriously thinking of moving there. However.

I can't believe the traffic got so bad in the past ten years! Was there really a time when this was not the case?? I rode though Snake Hill road last summer and your right! It was almost suicide!! I didn't know then but I certainly do now! The huge expressways that cut though Staten Island and all the cars have made cycling pretty dangerous. The cars are too aggressive and all along Richmond Terrance are bicycle signs pleading with the motorist "SHARE THE ROAD" to no avail. It's incredible how fast the cars and buses drive in Staten Island.
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thanks for the insight. i went over the holiday weekend, so i must have seen a lighter amount of traffic than usual.
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Originally Posted by timmhaan
thanks for the insight. i went over the holiday weekend, so i must have seen a lighter amount of traffic than usual.
Where did you ride?
Check out sibike.org. I ride regularly with the Staten Island Bike Club. We meet every Sat at Miller Field at 8:30. (Take Hylan Blvd to New Dorp Lane and make a left on New Dorp - Miller Field is on the left abt 2/10 mile). There are A, B and C groups. SI is pretty heavily traffficked but we have some routes which avoid as much as possible. I ride with the B group and we usually stay on SI on Saturday. On Sunday we usually assemble near the Outerbridge at 7:30 and head to Jersey. This Sunday we are doing 50 out of Jamesburg. There are a couple of metrics coming up soon as well. Dont miss the Pumpkin Patch Century Sept 26!
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Originally Posted by postmansi
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On Sunday we usually assemble near the Outerbridge at 7:30 and head to Jersey. This Sunday we are doing 50 out of Jamesburg. There are a couple of metrics coming up soon as well. Dont miss the Pumpkin Patch Century Sept 26!
I didn't know the Outerbridge had a bike path? According to Transportation Alternatives, the Outerbridge has a path but it's not developed. How do you get accross the Outterbridge?

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Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve
I didn't know the Outerbridge had a bike path? According to Transportation Alternatives, the Outerbridge has a path but it's not developed. How do you get accross the Outterbridge?

Steve.
Steve,
You are correct the Outerbridge has no bike path. The only SI bridge to have a path is the Bayonne.
When we go to Jersey we assemble at at location near the bridge just to get everyone together and then head over to Jersey by car.
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Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve
Good one...

It's amazing that I've lived just 5 miles from Staten Island but visited it for the first time in 20 years last summer. I live in Bayonne but Staten Island is a nice place to live overall. If it weren't for the fact that we now have a lightrail in my town that enabled me to become car free, I would be seriously thinking of moving there. However.

I can't believe the traffic got so bad in the past ten years! Was there really a time when this was not the case?? I rode though Snake Hill road last summer and your right! It was almost suicide!! I didn't know then but I certainly do now! The huge expressways that cut though Staten Island and all the cars have made cycling pretty dangerous. The cars are too aggressive and all along Richmond Terrance are bicycle signs pleading with the motorist "SHARE THE ROAD" to no avail. It's incredible how fast the cars and buses drive in Staten Island.
Your absolutly right, traffic is horrible there, we need to get some critical mass going on and teach those bastards a lesson!!!
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Originally Posted by postmansi
Where did you ride?
Check out sibike.org. I ride regularly with the Staten Island Bike Club.

hey thanks postmansi - i'll check that out for sure. i didn't actually ride out there - we had a guest in town and took her on the ferry and walked around a bit.

right now i ride in manhattan or brooklyn - pretty much the parks and the west side bike path. i've done those rides so much lately that this might be a nice change of pace.
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