Recreational Rider: Bianchi Veloce, etc. vs. Bianchi Eros
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Originally Posted by jthj
It looks like they found a 51, which might be my size, '03 Eros. I'm going to go look at it tomorrow. I'll compare weight with the '04. I did notice that the '03 is the RC frame which I believe is hand made. Would this be better than the reynolds even though slightly heavier. Also is there a signifigant advantage in having the Veloce components vs the Mirage? That appears to be the key difference between the two bikes.
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I ride an 02 Veloce (mine is celeste.) I would have bought a Vigorelli but I wanted Campy. I'm right now in the process of putting together a lighter, higher tech bike. I'm not going to sell the Veloce, though. It is simply a bike I have fallen in love with. Yes, it's a little heavy and a little old fashioned. It is even a little small for me. But it is absolutely reliable and a joy to ride. I runs absolutely quietly. The campy drive train is solid, quiet, sure, accurate, never needs adjustment. It's a great bike. We'll see how I take to the new carbon fiber high tech bike when it's done. If I don't, at least I'll have the Veloce. If I do take to it, I'll still have the Veloce. Good choice.
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I picked my '04 Veloce up this spring on close out from a wonderful shop in Ohio when calling around the country for a Bianchi. Bianchi's are my favorite bikes and I can rattle on with superlatives about this one
and will.
I ride it almost every day...did just under 100 miles this past weekend. It is rock solid with no untoward road manners...handles like a slot car and can lay it down in the curves...tracks dead straight at 30 miles an hour when hugging the curb and descends rock steady perfect. It has the best ride of any bike I have ever ridden. The Campy Vento wheels have stayed in true and the bike has no creaks...only the whir of the G3 spokes cutting the wind at speed.
I love this bike and couldn't be more pleased.
George
and will.

I ride it almost every day...did just under 100 miles this past weekend. It is rock solid with no untoward road manners...handles like a slot car and can lay it down in the curves...tracks dead straight at 30 miles an hour when hugging the curb and descends rock steady perfect. It has the best ride of any bike I have ever ridden. The Campy Vento wheels have stayed in true and the bike has no creaks...only the whir of the G3 spokes cutting the wind at speed.
I love this bike and couldn't be more pleased.
George
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Question about steel Bianchi in general:
I've noticed that their seat angle seems to be higher than other bikes. For example, if you look at the Eros, Imola, Veloce & Vigorelli, you'll see that for the smaller bikes (51 & 53), their seat angle is 75.5 & 75 degrees, repectively.
What does this mean in terms of handling/comfort? I haven't had the chance to really test ride a Bianchi yet....but I plan to sometime this week.
I've noticed that their seat angle seems to be higher than other bikes. For example, if you look at the Eros, Imola, Veloce & Vigorelli, you'll see that for the smaller bikes (51 & 53), their seat angle is 75.5 & 75 degrees, repectively.
What does this mean in terms of handling/comfort? I haven't had the chance to really test ride a Bianchi yet....but I plan to sometime this week.
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Originally Posted by Cadd
Question about steel Bianchi in general:
I've noticed that their seat angle seems to be higher than other bikes. For example, if you look at the Eros, Imola, Veloce & Vigorelli, you'll see that for the smaller bikes (51 & 53), their seat angle is 75.5 & 75 degrees, repectively.
What does this mean in terms of handling/comfort? I haven't had the chance to really test ride a Bianchi yet....but I plan to sometime this week.
I've noticed that their seat angle seems to be higher than other bikes. For example, if you look at the Eros, Imola, Veloce & Vigorelli, you'll see that for the smaller bikes (51 & 53), their seat angle is 75.5 & 75 degrees, repectively.
What does this mean in terms of handling/comfort? I haven't had the chance to really test ride a Bianchi yet....but I plan to sometime this week.

Their seat tube angles are not out of the norm. In true Italian road bike tradition they make an effective top tube that is relatively modest in length relative to bike sizing based upon seat tube length which gives their bikes a high degree of comfort. Also...they split the difference between conventional horizontal top tube and more radically sloping top tube compact frame geometry...the best of both worlds IMO. In simple terms...aside from most Bianchi models being equipped with full Campy gruppos...their frame geometry is my very favorite of all out there. A high seat tube angle which is common on bikes of all manufacturers on smaller bikes, simply positions the rider more forward relative to the BB. Small bikes have small riders with short femurs as a rule and tend to have shorter cranks and why a more upright seat tube angle is desired to center the rider CG balancing pedaling forces versus weighting the upper body which is largely the focus of KOPS.
HTH,
George