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Old 05-22-09, 12:38 PM
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weight reduction, wheels.

What are a decent brand wheels that are fairly inexpensive to reduce weight but still support a 200+ lb person?

I know rotating mass is the biggest problem and wheels seem like the best solution.
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Novatec Speedy
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If you want to save a bit of weight go for the S3.0 over the S4.0 Both excelent wheels...if you want to live on the edge Sean (owner of Soul) says the S2.0 would be fine for me and I am currently 215.
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Most companies do not make a wheel that is optomized for someone your weight. You should go with a custom built set. What are you looking to spend?
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Thanks for the info.

I am 213lbs. I cant seem to drop weight. I have been in the gym 5 days a week, I ride to work everyday and on the weekends I do 30miles. Yes i am eating right too. I count my calaries, take in 200g+ a day of protein etc. It seems I am dropping fat, and gaining muscle, just not losing anything on the scale.

I know that isn't much to a lot of people here but I am using a hybrid, im married and getting the time to bike for a couple hours isn't easy.
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Stop the protein shake and lifting weights and spend the time on the bike. The weight will come off. As for wheels go for a 32 spoke set with a light rim like Mavic open pro. There nothing fancy but will take a beating and when the weight come off you can by some real light weight wheels.
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Stop the protein shake and lifting weights and spend the time on the bike. The weight will come off. As for wheels go for a 32 spoke set with a light rim like Mavic open pro. There nothing fancy but will take a beating and when the weight come off you can by some real light weight wheels.
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32h front, 36h rear, mavic open pro, 105 or ultegra hubs using 14/15/14 ga. double butted spokes, brass nipples in 3 cross lacing pattern built by a competent wheel builder should be indestructible at your weight.

alternative rim options would be velocity aerohead, mavic CXP33, DT RR1.1, etc.
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Originally Posted by silvershark
Thanks for the info.

I am 213lbs. I cant seem to drop weight. I have been in the gym 5 days a week, I ride to work everyday and on the weekends I do 30miles. Yes i am eating right too. I count my calaries, take in 200g+ a day of protein etc. It seems I am dropping fat, and gaining muscle, just not losing anything on the scale.

I know that isn't much to a lot of people here but I am using a hybrid, im married and getting the time to bike for a couple hours isn't easy.
You haven't stated what your cycling goals are but if you're loosing fat and gaining muscle you are doing something right. So keep doing it and think long term.

As for the wheels focus on durability. Most well built wheels are also of reasonable weight.
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Originally Posted by AEO
32h front, 36h rear, mavic open pro, 105 or ultegra hubs using 14/15/14 ga. double butted spokes, brass nipples in 3 cross lacing pattern built by a competent wheel builder should be indestructible at your weight.

alternative rim options would be velocity aerohead, mavic CXP33, DT RR1.1, etc.
that would be indestructable for everyone but a giant. I personally think everyone over does the wheel build you need. You dont need a 32/36 3x all around set up. 28/32 with a radial front would be fine.

What are your current wheels and what do they weigh? You can probably shave off a pound from cheap wheels with a nice custom set and have them just as strong.
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Unless you are only riding up steep hills, aerodynamics are more important than light weight. Aero rims are also sturdier and make for wheels that last longer.

200g protein is a lot. If you want to get lighter, ride more and spend less time in the gym. 30 mile rides aren't that long. Eat more veggies and cut down on dinner.

If you are getting your calorie data for your rides from an HRM or GPS instead of a power meter, it is likely to be much higher than your actual calorie consumption. Those devices don't measure, they estimate, and they all seem to estimate high. Sometimes by 50% or more.
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Aero rims are stronger for beefier riders. I'm 225 (currently - down from 240) and I'm riding a set of Vuelta XRP's from Bike Island. I have over 1000 miles on this set since last fall and they are still true. They still roll very nicely and I have not popped a spoke even though most rides have at least one good 2+ mile climb (or more).

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https://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ls&ProdID=1220
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Thanks for the info. I am planning a 125 mile bike ride for a charity event next month. I am normally not a biker, I just got into it to lose some extra weight. I also picked up skate skiing in the winter months to lose some lbs, and gain muscle.

I am not looking to get thin.

If I hit 200 -190lb range I think I would be in the best shape of my life. I am built like a football runningback, not your typical runner/biker.

Anyhow, I was just looking for something that would help make the ride a bit better.

The 30 mile bike ride was on my brother in laws stump jumper, 2.75" tires and full suspension because he was complaining he couldn't keep up with me. So we had to switch bikes. I managed to keep a steady 18mph pace overall at the end of the trip so I think 60 miles a day on my bike should be easily obtainable.
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Add williams system 30x to your short list. 30 mm rim aero wheel designed for riders weighing 190+. Very nice wheels, great customer service from Keith.

I'm built like a slightly paunchy cornerback myself, and understand you'll never look like the prototypical roadie. On training for your century, I'd increase the length of your ride by maybe 10 miles a shot, not immediately up it to 60 miles. You'll likely be able to finish 125 easily if you can get your distance up to about 80% of that a week or two before then.

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Originally Posted by silvershark
Anyhow, I was just looking for something that would help make the ride a bit better.
It's highly unlikely that you are going to notice any difference in ride quality or your enjoyment of a 125 mile ride by losing weight off your wheels. Rotating mass is only relevant during accelerations which you shouldn't be doing much of on a long charity ride.
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200g of protein a day?! Who the **** told you that was a good idea?
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
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Mavic CXP-33 on Dura-Ace (or Ultegra) hubs. Light and aero enough. Way stronger than strong enough.

I couldn't decide between the CXP and Open Pro rims and went with the CXP b/c I have box section rims on my other bike and wanted something different. Along the way, I found out that lots of builders prefer the CXP for Clydes.

I'm 185-ish right now, so not quite Clyde, but I punish wheels on awful surfaces. These seem able to take it.
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Originally Posted by fauxto nick
200g of protein a day?! Who the **** told you that was a good idea?
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It's really easy to do when you substitute meals for whey. I usually have anywhere between 4-6 servings a day which would be around 120g of protein right there.
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Custom built Kinlin xr-300 30mm rims laced to some dura-ace hubs. Radial front, 3X rear.
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Originally Posted by silvershark
I cant seem to drop weight. I have been in the gym 5 days a week, I ride to work everyday and on the weekends I do 30miles. Yes i am eating right too. I count my calaries, take in 200g+ a day of protein etc.
Originally Posted by silvershark
I just got into it to lose some extra weight.
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I usually have anywhere between 4-6 servings a day which would be around 120g of protein right there.
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Whatever qft means...

That post seemed worthless.
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qft = quoted for truth[iness]

just saying, you are wondering why you aren't losing weight... but you are eating tons of protein and working out in the gym and getting your advice from bodybuilding.com.


I understand you said "I am not looking to get thin." but losing weight and bodybuilding do not really go hand-in-hand...
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What umd said.

I'm better built for football than cycling as well. I just need to look at weights and my muscles grow. You can't drop weight while eating lots of proteins and lifting weights. You'll drop fat but muscle mass will increase. You have to decide what your workout priorities are.
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I dont want to get into a debate here under the tire thread. If you want to discuss this elsewhere I am more than happy. And they do have a "losing weight" section. Plus biking is not my only physical activity. I run anywhere from 10-15 miles a day, bike 12 miles a day to work and back and then lift weights. So my protein intake may be much different from other people. I never suggested everyone take on 200g protein. My lifts have all gone up too, that was my main reason for the protein/working out. I went from curling 120lbs to 175 in 2 months, there would have been no way I could have done that if I wasn't taking in the amount my body needed. Feel free to start another thread if you want. I want to try and keep this to the wheels so I can reference it back when I am looking for wheels again. =)

I imagine on a biking forum your going to suggest carbs, grains, fruit, veggies etc. Everyone has different goals.
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Hey, do what you want, I don't care. If your priorities are to be a better lifter, then do what works for that. I'm just saying, don't be surprised you aren't losing weight given the activities and diet you described.

That said, lightweight, cheap, and stong don't really go together.
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