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crotch-less seat at *$#@-mart?

Old 05-27-09, 07:11 AM
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crotch-less seat at *$#@-mart?

So I'm riding my road tandem w/ a terry liberator saddle (for men) and it's like I'm sitting on a... on a... well, let's just say it isn't the least bit comfortable. I tend to fall asleep quickly (within the first 15 miles)and etc... And I've tried different saddles and positions and tilts and etc... It hurts to sit, it hurts to get up, it hurts to sit back down, etc...

But yesterday I was in that wonderful LBS (W@L-Mart) and I saw this "buns only" seat that made me think, "Hey, that seems like a good idea." Anybody tried these? And does somebody make one that's not quite so squishy? A better brand w/ real leather, etc.? It reminded me of those old "sling" style seats that I tried once on a short ride (and kinda liked, except for the dork factor -- not sure this butt pad will solve that problem).

I tend to want to go on my recumbent because it doesn't kill my kiester, but I can't keep up w/ my wife and our tandem is not a recumbent.
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Old 05-27-09, 07:32 AM
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the buns only doesn't allow you leverage in your riding
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Old 05-27-09, 08:32 AM
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There's some time-trial saddle without a nose.

That said, I believe there's a 'real' saddle out there for you.
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Old 05-27-09, 08:51 AM
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I had at Terry Men's saddle once. Did not like it. But that doesn't mean it's not a good saddle for someone else. I have liked a Specialized Alias and now ride a ProLogo Choice. Alias has the cut-out; Choice does not.

What I did find out when buying the Specialized is that I prefer a more narrow saddle than I would have guessed. Specialized has three widths of saddles and you can go to a dealer and sit in a gel pad to then measure your sit bones; or their website explains how to do this with a ruler. Turns out my sit bones are much more narrow than my butt is wide. Now that my bones meet the saddle in a good spot and supports my body I don't feel any pressure on my stuff.

Short version: Try out different saddles and you'll likely find something good for you.

As for those buns-only seats (and I say "seat" instead of "saddle" on purpose), I can see how that might work for some people on a beach-cruiser type of bike. But they are probably too wide for use on a true road bike and, as mrbUSA has said, the nose of a saddle can help you with handling the bike.
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Old 05-27-09, 08:56 AM
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My wife has one of those on her bike. She barely breaks 15mph ever, though. It's definitely made for an upright cruiser-type position.
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Old 05-27-09, 08:58 AM
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Don't waste your money on junk, do a little research and try some good saddles, plenty of comfortable ones out there.
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Old 05-27-09, 09:12 AM
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Old 05-27-09, 09:35 AM
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I have heard from multiple sources that nose-less saddles are surprisingly very counter-productive from bike handling. Like they make people crash.

Edit: It's very odd to me to call the nose of a saddle the crotch.
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Old 05-27-09, 09:48 AM
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I have a nose-less (Moonsaddle) on my hybrid. I did not really notice any difference in handling whatsoever. It may be less of an issue with a hybrid compared to a road cycle. BTW, I never liked the way my hybrid (Trek 7500) handled anyway.

The Moonsaddle DEFINITELY solved problems with numbness and seat discomfort. Works as advertised. However, there is a down-side. You don't really carry much weight on your butt. In my case that weight went to my legs (okay) and to my hands (not okay). The tradeoff for me was numb butt or numb wrists.

If I still rode my hybrid more I would fiddle with adjustments more to see if I could solve both problems with my existing equipment.
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I'd recommend getting a saddle based on your sit bone measurements. I always had problems with saddles just rocking my nuts especially commuting on rough NYC streets. Just picked up a Bontrager Inform RL with their measurement system and I'm loving it. Turns out my sit bones are much wider than all of the standard saddles out there (I was looking through the QBP catalog the other day and most of the saddles seem to have about a 130mm width - I measured a 154mm) Instantly I felt all of the weight on two specific points where my sit bones are.. and all the weight that was currently being put on the "crotch" was lifted and relieved. Me and the boys are now happy campers.
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Originally Posted by sibaudio View Post
I'd recommend getting a saddle based on your sit bone measurements. I always had problems with saddles just rocking my nuts especially commuting on rough NYC streets. Just picked up a Bontrager Inform RL with their measurement system and I'm loving it. Turns out my sit bones are much wider than all of the standard saddles out there (I was looking through the QBP catalog the other day and most of the saddles seem to have about a 130mm width - I measured a 154mm) Instantly I felt all of the weight on two specific points where my sit bones are.. and all the weight that was currently being put on the "crotch" was lifted and relieved. Me and the boys are now happy campers.
+1 on the Bontrager Inform RL

I have used other saddles w/o any issues but the bonty by far fits me the best.
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Originally Posted by WCroadie View Post
+1 on the Bontrager Inform RL

I have used other saddles w/o any issues but the bonty by far fits me the best.

Seriously I'm so surprised no one ever talks about that saddle it's always either the arione or toupe... my RL feels endlessly better than my arione.. and i'm riding the RL in plain jeans commuting.. can't wait to try it wearing my castelli bibs

do they make any of the other major saddles in different widths??
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Originally Posted by sibaudio View Post
Seriously I'm so surprised no one ever talks about that saddle it's always either the arione or toupe... my RL feels endlessly better than my arione.. and i'm riding the RL in plain jeans commuting.. can't wait to try it wearing my castelli bibs

do they make any of the other major saddles in different widths??
Specialized makes a number of saddles in different widths such as the ever-brilliant toupe.
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didn't know they made the toupe in different widths! that's awesome that'll probably be the next saddle on my road bike. I wish the shop I worked at carried the toupe so I could try it out :-(
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Originally Posted by recursive View Post
I have heard from multiple sources that nose-less saddles are surprisingly very counter-productive from bike handling. Like they make people crash.

Edit: It's very odd to me to call the nose of a saddle the crotch.
So that would be crotchless saddles... BIKE PORN
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didn't know they made the toupe in different widths! that's awesome that'll probably be the next saddle on my road bike. I wish the shop I worked at carried the toupe so I could try it out :-(
The BG models come in 130,142 and 155mm I believe. I ride the 142 Avatar Gel and it's fantastic.
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I don't know about buns only saddle, but this is a noseless saddle, if anyone is wondering.
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