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Williams System 30 review

Old 05-27-09, 09:01 AM
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Williams System 30 review

I have put about 800 miles on these wheels thus far and have been very impressed with the quality. The wheels advertised at 1540 grams weighed in at 1660 which is quite a bit off IMO. I spoke to Keith about that and he said that the rim strips weigh 33 grams a piece so I guess some weight could be shaved by going with something lighter. So, the wheels are a little under 1600 grams without the rim strips but that is still quite a bit more than the advertised weight. The wheels roll very smoothly and remain true despite my current weight of 187 lbs. and hitting a few pot holes that couldn't be avoided. They are stiff and to be honest, I can't tell any difference going up the hills with lighter wheels like my Kysyrium SL's. So....very smooth, stiff, durable so far, and light enough. Really liking these wheels.
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Old 05-27-09, 09:23 AM
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How loud is the free hub? I'm seriously interested in these or Easton EA 70's. Sounds like they're in the same weight range.
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it goes clicky-clicky-clicky but I've gotten used to it. You can apparently grease it if the noise is annoying. I haven't bothered.

I agree with whitemax's review. I've got a few hundred miles on so far and unfortunately a few potholes as well. Everything seems to be intact! I did notice (on the scale) the extra weight vs. advertised, but they're still a few hundred grams (~400g) lighter than my old shimanos. Overall I feel good about the money spent and I'd recommend them.
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The freehub is fairly loud, but not outrageous. The hubs are so smooth and they seem to spin forever.
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The freehub is quiet...I'd say a tad quieter then my Mavic Ksyrium Elites...

I've only got a few hundred kms on mine and so far they are good except for a little side to side play in my rear hub. I've contacted Kieth and he's aware, just waiting for some parts before I can take into my LBS to have them look at it. He wanted me to send that back, but the whole cross-border thing had me a little antsy...More the time it would take then anything...Now if he'd send a new wheel, then I'd gladly ship the old one

Still am impressed though...

Wife got a set also and so far so good there too...
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Originally Posted by alpha_bravo View Post
How loud is the free hub? I'm seriously interested in these or Easton EA 70's. Sounds like they're in the same weight range.
They aren't loud at all. Probably about average for a wheelset I'd say, certainly nothing like a Chris King hub.
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Old 05-27-09, 09:56 AM
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loudest freehub i've ever had, even when i put in heavier grease

still love em though, don't care that much about how loud the freehub is

at this point i probably have over 1500K on them and they are true and well tensioned
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Old 05-27-09, 10:19 AM
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You forgot to mention one of the most important questions.. Are the graphics removable?
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The graphics are nice you troglodyte.
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Old 05-27-09, 10:42 AM
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Okay, another fan here. The freehub bugged me for about one block and then the sound vanished behind the din of traffic and wind. I barely notice it anymore. My Xero's were dead silent.

As stated, they roll forever! Very smooth and true. As a non-racer, recreational rider, I didn't know if I would be able to tell the difference from my Xero's. oh yeah.....they are 500 grams lighter and great wheels.
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For all of you complaining about the freehub sound, HTFU and stop coasting.


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Originally Posted by notwist View Post
You forgot to mention one of the most important questions.. Are the graphics removable?
sadly, no. They appear to be clearcoated in place.
They're not BAD though.


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HTFU and stop coasting
THIS.
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Here's a URL, because that would have been useful...
http://www.williamscycling.com/sys30/sys30.html
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Pedal more, coast less!
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Originally Posted by notwist View Post
You forgot to mention one of the most important questions.. Are the graphics removable?
yes, on system 19/30 anyways
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Old 05-27-09, 01:13 PM
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They certainly don't LOOK removable to me. On closer inspection I'd almost say they were screen printed.
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i removed mine with a hair dryer and goo gone in about 5 minutes

could be different versions of them though
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Old 05-27-09, 01:34 PM
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Not sure. See attached:



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pick at it and see if it peels, although they may have brushed clear coat over it.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
The graphics are nice you troglodyte.
Don't hear that word used every day
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how old are your wheels anticlimbactic? those definitely look different and possibly non-removable

my 19's and 30's are both from early last year

i guess best thing to do if you want to buy a set and remove them is to contact williams and ask if the decals are removable on the current sets. although i don't think they'll have anymore 30 sets for a week or two anyways.
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mine are basically new. guess they went to a different design/label option. They're fine, but I think I'd prefer just the "w"
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the graphics on their new cross wheels are nice (i think)

hopefully a sign of things to come

http://www.williamscycling.blogspot.com/
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Originally Posted by exhibitx View Post
the graphics on their new cross wheels are nice (i think)

hopefully a sign of things to come

http://www.williamscycling.blogspot.com/

Ooh, those do look good.
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