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Your bike with a percentage of grade sign

Old 05-30-09, 09:46 PM
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I have a personal rule. If the hill is crappy and hard to climb, I'm not aloud to stop midway through. I think 24% is my record.
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Originally Posted by Vireo View Post
George,

Is that Pacific Island Drive? If so, I've only ever ridden up it once.
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Not my normal bike, but the folder.

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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
He pushed up the 25% grade hill where he posed at the top with the sign ... but he rode up the second 25% grade hill after weighing me down with a large bottle of wine in my panniers which forced me to walk.
If it was a bottle of wine weighing you down I vote it counts even if you pushed your bike part way.

After all, if you push your bike over the line first in a bike race, you still win.
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Originally Posted by Cleave View Post
George,

Is that Pacific Island Drive? If so, I've only ever ridden up it once.

It is not Pacific Island Drive. I can't remember if PID has a grade sign on it. I guess I'll have to check .

It is Calle Grande in Orange

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Originally Posted by cmh View Post
If it was a bottle of wine weighing you down I vote it counts even if you pushed your bike part way.

After all, if you push your bike over the line first in a bike race, you still win.
If they had downed the bottle of wine before climbing the hill it would have made a better argument.

This is not the UCI or the USCF it is the ECC- Epic Cycling Coalition. The ruling stands -- no credit.
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a pic of grade sign, taken while i was ON my bike.
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Old 05-31-09, 02:18 PM
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Damn, I wish I'd known this thread was coming. I'd have taken a pic of the 15% hill I fought my way up yesterday. I only took a pic of the sign, so there was no bike in it. If only I could see into the future.
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Old 05-31-09, 03:22 PM
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so totally need to find one of these signs. great idea OP. later.
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Percent gradient is how many metres the hill rises in 100 metres. A 100% hill is a 45 degree angle!

Hence 25% is 1 in 4, 20% is one in 5 etc...
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Old 05-31-09, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
In England they call grades 1:3 or 1:4. Rise over run. So it goes up 1 ft (or whatever unit of measure you choose to use) for every 3 ft in distance, or 1 ft for every 4 ft of distance. 1:3 is 1/3 or 33.3%. 1:4 is 1/4 or 25%.

So a 12% grade is approximately a 1:8 ... for every 8 ft of distance, the hill rises 1 ft.
When they use % grade, the denominator (or "run" in the above example) is always 100. So a 12% grade is 12 feet of rise in 100 feet of run (or length).
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Old 05-31-09, 04:19 PM
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Blake Snake Road, on the West side of Hot Springs Ark. From the sign here you go downhill a couple hundred meters, cross a bridge and head up.



The first time I ever rode it, had to stop for a breather at one of the switchbacks, took these photos.


My p.r. is 8 minutes flat from the bridge at the bottom to the top. Last time I was there I did 3 repeats.

Arkansas has hills like this all over the place. As these things go, Black Snake is just a small one.
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Old 05-31-09, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Vireo View Post
^^What's all that mean in "old money" as Phil Leggit says.
The whole climb looks like this:



25.7km = 16 miles.

1909m = 6263 ft

Base elevation: 909m = 2280 ft. So roughly 4000 feet of climbing.

Percent grades are shown below. The sign in the pic was just above Chalet Reynard for reference...
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Originally Posted by AlexTaylor View Post
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That looks like a killer!!!!!!!!!
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From today's ride. I hit a few steeps but only a few were marked.



Nyes Place in Laguna Beach red tick mark number 6 is the top.




At the bottom




At the top
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Originally Posted by Cleave View Post
George,

Is that Pacific Island Drive? If so, I've only ever ridden up it once.
I was curious so I rode up Pacific Island Drive today from both sides. The top of PID is tick marks 9 and 11 on the graph.

Would you believe they have a 7% sign on it. Lies all lies It is at least 10%. Here is a picture of the sign.


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Bully Hill in Western NY has sections that are 22%. I did it w/ my wife on our tandem (w/o stopping). We could have walked faster. I was desperately afraid that we would actually stop and start rolling backwards. I think it was about 1 1/2 miles long.

Best part? Coming down Little Italy Hill, a few miles later. Probably 3 miles long -- not quite the grade (15?) but we had to be going 60 mph on the way down! Yeeehaaaa!
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Originally Posted by Vireo View Post
Holy Moly!

Question is--did YOU climb it? How long was the hill?
Forget going up it, did he descend that torn up hell?
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I don't know of any places that have grade signs around here...but when I ride to Marist, I'll see.

From the terrain map, it looks like I'll face hell.
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Originally Posted by AlexTaylor View Post
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That is serious grade-age. SICK.
How long was it, though?

I don't have pictures, but this one route I do includes this short rise. About 1/5 of a mile, but at 25% grade. It feels so bad climbing it, but so good after it's all over.

The alternative is a nice climb at 17%, which is about 2/5 of a mile instead.

The whole thing averages 6% on the second route. It's a bit tough for me, but it's nice.
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I can't think of such a sign within a 100 miles of here (Dallas). And posted a question to that effect in the Texas forum, no one else seems to know of one, either.

It's not just the grade that's the issue. For a 7% or so grade to be marked, it's got to be a long grade, and that's what we're missing around here.
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I can't think of such a sign within a 100 miles of here (Dallas). And posted a question to that effect in the Texas forum, no one else seems to know of one, either.

It's not just the grade that's the issue. For a 7% or so grade to be marked, it's got to be a long grade, and that's what we're missing around here.

Yeah, right where I live none of the hills are marked. I'm sure several are at least 8% (based on experiences riding 8% grades), but they don't put signs up for that.
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Oh wait ... here's one of me riding up an 11% grade coming out of Radium Hotsprings. I was doing the Golden Triangle 400K in 2006, and this hill occurred at about the 300 km point of the ride.
http://www.machka.net/2006/2006_400_GT.htm


http://www.flickr.com/photos/1430288...7602332363619/
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At a So Cal forum ride in June 2007.
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