Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

An open letter to Greg LeMond

Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

An open letter to Greg LeMond

Old 05-31-09, 04:56 PM
  #1  
Walter
SLJ 6/8/65-5/2/07
Thread Starter
 
Walter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SE Florida, USA aka the Treasure Coast
Posts: 5,390
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
An open letter to Greg LeMond

Dear Greg,

I'm roughly your age and have been a fan since you went to Europe. I feel I owe you a personal and sincere apology.

I was seen today by any number of people sucking real hard whilst on one of your higher end frames. I know you have no current distributor for those frames but I still feel I did you wrong today and I hope I haven't hurt your chances of picking up a new distributor. I certainly didn't mean to do this to you either directly or indirectly.

All I can say is: Dude I'm sorry, really sorry. There's a race in Stuart (FLA) Saturday and I'll try to make it up to you but you know what they say about chicken, eggs and counting.

PS: I ought to CC this to the Campagnolo and Mavic people as well but I feel that I've hurt you more.

PPS: I'll bet everyone who read this thought I'd be talking about Lance Armstrong and/or doping.
This is much more important.

Sincerely:

A true(ly depressed) fan

__________________
“Life is not one damned thing after another. Life is one damned thing over and over.”
Edna St. Vincent Millay
Walter is offline  
Old 05-31-09, 04:59 PM
  #2  
Grumpy McTrumpy
gmt
 
Grumpy McTrumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Binghamton, NY
Posts: 12,509
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 44 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
mkay
Grumpy McTrumpy is offline  
Old 05-31-09, 05:00 PM
  #3  
trojanman
Senior Member
 
trojanman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 169
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I used to ride a Lemond, but when he started get all sour on "another" American tour winner I put tape over the "D" and now it's a Lemon.
trojanman is offline  
Old 05-31-09, 05:03 PM
  #4  
UCP
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 220
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
404: Funny not found.
UCP is offline  
Old 05-31-09, 06:55 PM
  #5  
The Weak Link
Banned.
 
The Weak Link's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Post-partisan Paradise
Posts: 4,938

Bikes: GF Wahoo '05, Trek T1000 '04, Lemond Buenos Aires '07

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I know exactly what you mean. I ride/rock/slay a Lemond Buenos Aires, full carbon beautiful red and white with very nice components. It's a shame I can't get over 12 MPH.
The Weak Link is offline  
Old 05-31-09, 07:55 PM
  #6  
BillyD
Administrator
 
BillyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Hudson Valley, NY
Posts: 25,407

Bikes: Merlin Cyrene '04; Bridgestone RB-1 '92

Mentioned: 268 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6124 Post(s)
Liked 64 Times in 45 Posts
Dear Walter,

I am shocked and appalled at the inexcusable and deplorable level of your conditioning. You're despicable! You are going to have to step it up, mister. Your concern about riding one of my bikes is indeed warranted. I can't have this kind of ineptitude casting dispersion-by-association on one of my cutting edge machines. It's embarrassing, Walt. I WON'T HAVE IT!

You have two weeks to get yourself in better riding condition, something minimally commensurate with the standards my bicycles deserve. Otherwise I will be forced to repossess your Lemond and replace it with a Trek, donating the Lemond to some more deserving, fit individual . . . maybe even a girl.

You'll be hearing from me.

GL

(PS: Regards and much love to my main man BillyD for allowing me this opportunity to rip you a new one on BF. Peace out!)
__________________
See, this is why we can't have nice things. - - smarkinson
Where else but the internet can a bunch of cyclists go and be the tough guy? - - jdon
BillyD is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 01:35 PM
  #7  
Walter
SLJ 6/8/65-5/2/07
Thread Starter
 
Walter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SE Florida, USA aka the Treasure Coast
Posts: 5,390
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
Dear Walter,

I am shocked and appalled at the inexcusable and deplorable level of your conditioning. You're despicable! You are going to have to step it up, mister. Your concern about riding one of my bikes is indeed warranted. I can't have this kind of ineptitude casting dispersion-by-association on one of my cutting edge machines. It's embarrassing, Walt. I WON'T HAVE IT!

You have two weeks to get yourself in better riding condition, something minimally commensurate with the standards my bicycles deserve. Otherwise I will be forced to repossess your Lemond and replace it with a Trek, donating the Lemond to some more deserving, fit individual . . . maybe even a girl.

You'll be hearing from me.

GL

(PS: Regards and much love to my main man BillyD for allowing me this opportunity to rip you a new one on BF. Peace out!)
I said I'm sorry! That works for my kids. My wife is dragging me to the Stuart race so perhaps there'll be redemption. However, she was one of the ones who dropped me the other day...
__________________
“Life is not one damned thing after another. Life is one damned thing over and over.”
Edna St. Vincent Millay
Walter is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 02:15 PM
  #8  
BobLoblaw
Dough Mestique
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 355
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I rode a. '03 Lemond Buenes Ares for a couple of miserable years, and Greg owes ME an apology.

BL
BobLoblaw is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 04:50 PM
  #9  
eriksbliss
I'm so much cooler online
 
eriksbliss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 297
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
Dear Walter,

I am shocked and appalled at the inexcusable and deplorable level of your conditioning. You're despicable! You are going to have to step it up, mister. Your concern about riding one of my bikes is indeed warranted. I can't have this kind of ineptitude casting dispersion-by-association on one of my cutting edge machines. It's embarrassing, Walt. I WON'T HAVE IT!

You have two weeks to get yourself in better riding condition, something minimally commensurate with the standards my bicycles deserve. Otherwise I will be forced to repossess your Lemond and replace it with a Trek, donating the Lemond to some more deserving, fit individual . . . maybe even a girl.

You'll be hearing from me.

GL
Dear Walter,

Don't take this crap from GL. I can tell you some things about him and his uncle.

FL
eriksbliss is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 04:55 PM
  #10  
Second Mouse
....gets the cheese
 
Second Mouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: SLC, Utah
Posts: 2,567

Bikes: Canondale Caad 8, Gary Fisher Marlin, Wilier Triestina Jareen

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
Dear Walter,

I am shocked and appalled at the inexcusable and deplorable level of your conditioning. You're despicable! You are going to have to step it up, mister. Your concern about riding one of my bikes is indeed warranted. I can't have this kind of ineptitude casting dispersion-by-association on one of my cutting edge machines. It's embarrassing, Walt. I WON'T HAVE IT!

You have two weeks to get yourself in better riding condition, something minimally commensurate with the standards my bicycles deserve. Otherwise I will be forced to repossess your Lemond and replace it with a Trek, donating the Lemond to some more deserving, fit individual . . . maybe even a girl.

You'll be hearing from me.

GL

(PS: Regards and much love to my main man BillyD for allowing me this opportunity to rip you a new one on BF. Peace out!)
Alternatively, I'd get on the juice, Walt. Pronto.
Second Mouse is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 04:57 PM
  #11  
eriksbliss
I'm so much cooler online
 
eriksbliss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 297
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Me and three friends are riding an organized century a few weeks ago, with nice, staffed pit stops every twenty miles or so. I'm on a carbon Bianchi C2C. Next guy is riding a carbon Specialized S-Works. Third guy has a brand-new carbon Look 566. Last guy, who doesn't own a bike, is using my orange, steel LeMond Poprad cyclocross bike with some crappy road tires tossed on it.

At every stop we made, multiple people blew right past the nice bikes of the first three of us, and the substantially nicer bikes still of many other riders, and checked out and complimented the LeMond. Particularly the European folks. WTF? I love the bike and all, but . . .
eriksbliss is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 05:01 PM
  #12  
Walter
SLJ 6/8/65-5/2/07
Thread Starter
 
Walter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SE Florida, USA aka the Treasure Coast
Posts: 5,390
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by eriksbliss View Post
Dear Walter,

Don't take this crap from GL. I can tell you some things about him and his uncle.

FL
Kinda nasty but ....
__________________
“Life is not one damned thing after another. Life is one damned thing over and over.”
Edna St. Vincent Millay
Walter is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 05:05 PM
  #13  
Sprocket Man
Prefers Aluminum
 
Sprocket Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Honolulu
Posts: 2,671

Bikes: Wife: Trek 5200, C'dale Rush Feminine, Vitus 979 Me: Felt S25, Cervelo Soloist, C'dale Killer V500, Miyata Pro (fixie)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Everytime I think about Greg Lemond, I remember watching the final TT of the TdF back in '89. That, for me, was the greatest moment in sports history. And despite the fact that he's been involved with so much unsavory drama since then, I'll probably always be a huge Lemond fan.
Sprocket Man is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 05:24 PM
  #14  
poephols14
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 8
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yea a pretty nasty thread (references to Le Monds uncle and all ) but what do expect in the daze (sic) of Armstrong Inc. He cannot put a foot wrong. Sucks asphalt in the Giro and the rider ahead of him is blamed. I watched that stage and that's total bull****. Sir Lancelot was at fault. Anyway, i believe Dave Wiens who thinks LA is a total tosser with his head up his a-hole.
poephols14 is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 05:28 PM
  #15  
Randallissimo
Wilma!!
 
Randallissimo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Cape Coral, FL
Posts: 361
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I ride a 07 carbon Lemond Zurich and I suck regularly.
Randallissimo is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 05:36 PM
  #16  
Lucky07
Ride 365
 
Lucky07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: NYC/UpperDutchess, NY
Posts: 1,882

Bikes: '06 Cannondale Six 13 Pro 2, '05 Specialized Allez Elite, '04 Jamis Satellite, 90's Raleigh M-45 single speed conversion, 80's Fuji Team single speed conversion, 70's Schwinn World Sport

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by poephols14 View Post
Yea a pretty nasty thread (references to Le Monds uncle and all ) but what do expect in the daze (sic) of Armstrong Inc. He cannot put a foot wrong. Sucks asphalt in the Giro and the rider ahead of him is blamed. I watched that stage and that's total bull****. Sir Lancelot was at fault. Anyway, i believe Dave Wiens who thinks LA is a total tosser with his head up his a-hole.

Lucky07 is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 05:39 PM
  #17  
Hunt-man
Tete de Couch
 
Hunt-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: West Linn OR
Posts: 1,488

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I am trying to suck really hard on my new Lemond Tete de Course and I'm doing a great job! Way to go Greg, great bike, and with my 44 year old tush on it, the carbon fiber is so impressive and light. I should post a powertap profile just to prove my suckage.... Wish I knew how....

I'm looking for a Livestrong / Armstrong sticker to put on the bike. That should make you happy, right Greg?

Hunt-man is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 05:39 PM
  #18  
eriksbliss
I'm so much cooler online
 
eriksbliss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 297
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by poephols14 View Post
Yea a pretty nasty thread (references to Le Monds uncle and all ) . . .
Oh, come on, lighten up a little. I made the joke fairly short and vague. I know it was a despicable incident and all, but still . . .

Originally Posted by poephols14 View Post
. . . but what do expect in the daze (sic) of Armstrong Inc. He cannot put a foot wrong.
Bad assessment of causality: I am no fan of Armstrong. It's just that I'm not very fond of LeMond or Landis, either.
eriksbliss is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 05:40 PM
  #19  
HigherGround
Descends Like Avalanche
 
HigherGround's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Somewhere between Funkytown and Margaritaville, PA
Posts: 5,769

Bikes: Lynskey R330, Litespeed Classic, Eddy Merckx MX Leader, Specialized Rock Hopper Comp (1988!)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Sprocket Man View Post
Everytime I think about Greg Lemond, I remember watching the final TT of the TdF back in '89. That, for me, was the greatest moment in sports history. And despite the fact that he's been involved with so much unsavory drama since then, I'll probably always be a huge Lemond fan.
Agreed. I got in to racing in the mid 80's, so Greg indelibly became "The Man" in my opinion. Between LeMond, Hampsten, Bauer, and the 7-Eleven team, it was an awesome time to get in to cycling.

Originally Posted by poephols14 View Post
Yea a pretty nasty thread (references to Le Monds uncle and all ) but what do expect in the daze (sic) of Armstrong Inc. He cannot put a foot wrong. Sucks asphalt in the Giro and the rider ahead of him is blamed. I watched that stage and that's total bull****. Sir Lancelot was at fault. Anyway, i believe Dave Wiens who thinks LA is a total tosser with his head up his a-hole.
What are you referring to specifically?

Any way, back to the original topic. In the same line of thinking, I should probably hunt down an e-mail address for Mr. Merckx very soon...
__________________
The rider in my avatar is David Etxebarria, not me.
HigherGround is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 05:51 PM
  #20  
urbanknight
In beaurocratic limbo
 
urbanknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 22,456

Bikes: Specialized Allez, K2 Razorback

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Geez. I think I need to write some letters to Schwinn, Cannondale, Trek, GT, etc.
__________________
"Well, I guess you can cut the arts as much as you want... Sooner or later, these kids aren't going to have anything to read or write about." (Richard Dreyfus as Glenn Holland)
urbanknight is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 06:18 PM
  #21  
55/Rad
Form*r Ho*rd*r
 
55/Rad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 11,723

Bikes: Seven Axiom, Dave Moulton Fuso

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Hell, just painting a Lemond frame can take 5 years...or more.
__________________
55/Rad is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 06:38 PM
  #22  
Walter
SLJ 6/8/65-5/2/07
Thread Starter
 
Walter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SE Florida, USA aka the Treasure Coast
Posts: 5,390
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by poephols14 View Post
Yea a pretty nasty thread (references to Le Monds uncle and all ) but what do expect in the daze (sic) of Armstrong Inc. He cannot put a foot wrong. Sucks asphalt in the Giro and the rider ahead of him is blamed. I watched that stage and that's total bull****. Sir Lancelot was at fault. Anyway, i believe Dave Wiens who thinks LA is a total tosser with his head up his a-hole.
I did not mean this thread to be serious......

Well the wallowing in self-pity part is serious but otherwise...


__________________
“Life is not one damned thing after another. Life is one damned thing over and over.”
Edna St. Vincent Millay
Walter is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 07:57 PM
  #23  
BillyD
Administrator
 
BillyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Hudson Valley, NY
Posts: 25,407

Bikes: Merlin Cyrene '04; Bridgestone RB-1 '92

Mentioned: 268 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6124 Post(s)
Liked 64 Times in 45 Posts
Hey guys & gals,

Greg asked me to post the following responses for him. These comments do not necessarily reflect the opinions of BillyD in any way.
Remember, I'm just the messenger . . . don't shoot the messenger.

Originally Posted by Sprocket Man View Post
Everytime I think about Greg Lemond, I remember watching the final TT of the TdF back in '89. That, for me, was the greatest moment in sports history. And despite the fact that he's been involved with so much unsavory drama since then, I'll probably always be a huge Lemond fan.
Thanks SM, that means a lot to me. Good times. {What, what's this salty discharge coming from my eyes?}

Originally Posted by poephols14 View Post
Anyway, i believe Dave Wiens who thinks LA is a total tosser with his head up his a-hole.
You the man, p.

Originally Posted by Hunt-man View Post
I'm looking for a Livestrong / Armstrong sticker to put on the bike. That should make you happy, right Greg?
Where's the love, dude? (There's always one in the crowd, isn't there.)

Originally Posted by eriksbliss View Post
I am no fan of Armstrong. It's just that I'm not very fond of LeMond or Landis, either.
You're on the right track . . . one out of three isn't that bad.

Originally Posted by HigherGround View Post
I got in to racing in the mid 80's, so Greg indelibly became "The Man" in my opinion. Between LeMond, Hampsten, Bauer, and the 7-Eleven team, it was an awesome time to get in to cycling.
Thanks HG . . . YOU the man!

Peace out,
GL

(PS: All these accolades aside, I got my eye on you, Walter.)
__________________
See, this is why we can't have nice things. - - smarkinson
Where else but the internet can a bunch of cyclists go and be the tough guy? - - jdon
BillyD is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 08:11 PM
  #24  
HigherGround
Descends Like Avalanche
 
HigherGround's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Somewhere between Funkytown and Margaritaville, PA
Posts: 5,769

Bikes: Lynskey R330, Litespeed Classic, Eddy Merckx MX Leader, Specialized Rock Hopper Comp (1988!)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 55/Rad View Post
Hell, just painting a Lemond frame can take 5 years...or more.
And that's just the head tube...
__________________
The rider in my avatar is David Etxebarria, not me.
HigherGround is offline  
Old 06-02-09, 08:15 PM
  #25  
baj32161
Behind EVERYone!!!
 
baj32161's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Burlington ON, Canada
Posts: 5,949

Bikes: '11 Cannondale Synapsese 5 105

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Huge LeMond fan here...riding an '04 Tourmalet and sucking beyond anyone's wildest imagination. My bike hates me and Greg would shoot me....in BOTH 'nads.
__________________
“A good teacher protects his pupils from his own influence. ”

― Bruce Lee
baj32161 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.