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06-01-09, 04:19 PM
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not at all, club rides are great fun. But this particular ride was full of red light runners, 4, 5, even 6 wide at times, changing lines without notice...well, you get the picture.
Back on topic, when he gets pissy with me 'bout snot flying when I did not know he was there, and he failed to make it known, you can't help but to get snippy right back. His own fault really. Had he approached it differently I would have been much nicer.
You went on a club ride only to get pissy about drafting?Back on topic, when he gets pissy with me 'bout snot flying when I did not know he was there, and he failed to make it known, you can't help but to get snippy right back. His own fault really. Had he approached it differently I would have been much nicer.
06-01-09, 04:28 PM
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I was doing a 70-mile charity ride yesterday, as a "recovery ride" from a 100-mile solo ride the day before. I wasn't interested in drafting or pacelines. I just wanted to do my own pace. I had a guy in front of me get completely pissed off that I wouldn't draft off of him. He kept slowing down, making motions to me to come up, looking back to see if I was moving up etc. I just kept back of him by 10 feet or so. Eventually he just shook his head at me like I'd completely ruined his day...
06-01-09, 04:38 PM
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Out today doing my solo ride on the W&OD. Half way into it between Leesburg and Purcellville, I passed a dude, looking like doing some tri training with bunch of big bottles, but no TT bar. He was riding slower than me so I passed him, but after I passed him, he started to tail me and follow my wheels. I didn't much care for that so I slowed down several times and tried to let him pass me, but he wouldn't it. He was on my ass like a bad hemorrhoid. After about 3 or 4 miles, I had enough and turned off and rode the country roads for the rest of my ride.
So WTF? This never happened to me before and there were instances when someone wanted to ride along or follow wheels, but they always said something to me and got my ok before they do that. But this dude was just like freaking shadow. What do you do if that happens again? I don't want to change my route because guys like that.
So WTF? This never happened to me before and there were instances when someone wanted to ride along or follow wheels, but they always said something to me and got my ok before they do that. But this dude was just like freaking shadow. What do you do if that happens again? I don't want to change my route because guys like that.
Then it gets kind of weird. He kept on giving half glances over his shoulder at me then he stops pedaling! Holy sh*t dude, be smooth! I'm pretty tired, so I just sit up and slow down and give him some space. When he starts up again, he looks a bit flustered, but whatever... I just return to riding my ride and think nothing more of it. Then the half glances again, and the sudden slowing, and he's all up in my grill again! This is getting really f-ing weird. Finally, he gives me one last half-glance back and turns off. About freaking time.
Anyway, thanks for letting me vent. Damn noobs...
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06-01-09, 04:46 PM
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Get this: The other day, I was shelled at the end of a hard 80 mile hammer ride, soft pedaling home. A guy in a tee-shirt and baggy shorts comes up from behind and passes... whatever. It's been a hard day. He does the typical noob thing and passes with a fluster only to slow down a bit right as he gets by me. I end up hovering a bit behind him, but I don't really give it much thought.
Then it gets kind of weird. He kept on giving half glances over his shoulder at me then he stops pedaling! Holy sh*t dude, be smooth! I'm pretty tired, so I just sit up and slow down and give him some space. When he starts up again, he looks a bit flustered, but whatever... I just return to riding my ride and think nothing more of it. Then the half glances again, and the sudden slowing, and he's all up in my grill again! This is getting really f-ing weird. Finally, he gives me one last half-glance back and turns off. About freaking time.
Anyway, thanks for letting me vent. Damn noobs...
Then it gets kind of weird. He kept on giving half glances over his shoulder at me then he stops pedaling! Holy sh*t dude, be smooth! I'm pretty tired, so I just sit up and slow down and give him some space. When he starts up again, he looks a bit flustered, but whatever... I just return to riding my ride and think nothing more of it. Then the half glances again, and the sudden slowing, and he's all up in my grill again! This is getting really f-ing weird. Finally, he gives me one last half-glance back and turns off. About freaking time.
Anyway, thanks for letting me vent. Damn noobs...
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06-01-09, 06:35 PM
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I don't see what the problem is... even doing ~200w should gutter most regular riders unless they are on your butt really well (< a bike length).
06-01-09, 07:08 PM
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What's the problem with someone drafting you, even without saying anything? In which way could this harm you? If anything happens, he'll be in trouble, not you.
06-01-09, 07:37 PM
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Hopping on someone's wheel or being hopped on, just announce your presence. I like to know if someone's on my wheel and it creeps me out when I suddenly realize someone is there unannounced. I find it rare that someone doesn't want to work together, but if they don't, I don't take it personal.
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06-01-09, 07:50 PM
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another example:
today, met up with a guy riding the same way as me for a good 10miles. I greeted him at a light, exchanged pleasantries all that fun stuff.
He took the lead on the way out, but I didnt want to draft so I stayed back a good 15 feet, but caught up to him every now and again.
About half way through I rode up to him and asked if he wanted a lift and he accepted. So I took the lead for the next 5 or so miles maybe. I didn't mind a bit, it was nice to have someone to ride with and talk to when the road let us. Wicked nice guy, hope I see him out on the road again.
So I guess my point is this: can't we all just get along??
today, met up with a guy riding the same way as me for a good 10miles. I greeted him at a light, exchanged pleasantries all that fun stuff.
He took the lead on the way out, but I didnt want to draft so I stayed back a good 15 feet, but caught up to him every now and again.
About half way through I rode up to him and asked if he wanted a lift and he accepted. So I took the lead for the next 5 or so miles maybe. I didn't mind a bit, it was nice to have someone to ride with and talk to when the road let us. Wicked nice guy, hope I see him out on the road again.
So I guess my point is this: can't we all just get along??
06-01-09, 08:08 PM
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In this forum, no.
I do not mind pulling others every so often. However, this tends to happen on commutes where I am feeling anti social. I either drop the guy or slow down.
I do not mind pulling others every so often. However, this tends to happen on commutes where I am feeling anti social. I either drop the guy or slow down.
06-01-09, 08:18 PM
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Had something similar happen to me once. I was pretty tuckered out and in a relatively traffic-free area so I wasn't really paying attention to whatever might be behind me, just single-mindedly heading toward whatever was in front of me. I was in unfamiliar territory, so I got to an empty intersection, pulled out and slowed to a crawl while deciding which way to go, and was passed by a triathlete that I'd been pulling for God knows how long.
06-01-09, 08:23 PM
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I think it also depends on where you ride. We have so many riders around here that on the more popular routes, it's very rare not to see any number of other cyclists. It's not a big deal.
When you ride on the tundra, OTOH, I'd imagine seeing another cyclist is a pretty exciting event.
When you ride on the tundra, OTOH, I'd imagine seeing another cyclist is a pretty exciting event.
06-01-09, 09:12 PM
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I seem to get it quite a bit. Sometimes I'll pull up to a light to find a couple people back there. I've snot-rocket'd people completely on accident. I just didn't know they were there. It seems a little rude, but it doesn't really bug me all that bad.
On the other end, I've also hooked up with groups on the end of a training ride to help myself get home. I always ask if it's OK, and if they ever said it wasn't, it wouldn't particuarly hurt my feelings (never happened). Before I get to wherever I'm turning off, I always make sure to put in a good pull. It's kinda fun to sit in with a bunch of older guys for a while and recover and then really put in a monster pull right before turning off. It's kind of a game for me. I ride like hell, but at the same time stay on the tops or hoods and _act_ like I'm really not hurting. It's good practice for races and makes a training ride just that much more training.
06-01-09, 10:44 PM
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I picked up a wheel sucker a couple of weeks ago. After a while I turned and asked him if he could take a pull. Turned out it was his first serious ride coming back from hip replacement surgery, and he was struggling a bit. I pulled him for about another 15 miles before he turned off.
You never know unless you ask.
You never know unless you ask.
06-02-09, 12:57 AM
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[QUOTE=Fat Boy;9024566] I ride like hell, but at the same time stay on the tops or hoods and _act_ like I'm really not hurting. [QUOTE]
heh. kinda like when i pass going at threshold and pick my nose or adjust my sleeves as i go by...
heh. kinda like when i pass going at threshold and pick my nose or adjust my sleeves as i go by...
06-02-09, 01:07 AM
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When I'm riding, I really don't want to even see another human being. I'm not a team player. I just want to be left alone. Maybe I'll start training for RAAM or something.
06-02-09, 06:26 AM
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If it's on the weekend, I could care less who tries to hang on. During the week when I have limited time to do my thing and get the hours in, no thank you. Call me a misanthrope during those periods.
Playing chess:
Stay a little ways (50-100 m) behind the slower rider you suspect will suck said wheel, wait for a hill. Act like you're struggling to catch him because inevitably, he'll be looking back from time to time once he knows you're there. After he has begun the climb, slowed and downshifted (and thinks he's home free), drop the hammer. Works everytime.
Playing chess:
Stay a little ways (50-100 m) behind the slower rider you suspect will suck said wheel, wait for a hill. Act like you're struggling to catch him because inevitably, he'll be looking back from time to time once he knows you're there. After he has begun the climb, slowed and downshifted (and thinks he's home free), drop the hammer. Works everytime.
06-02-09, 07:09 AM
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The amount of mental energy getting expended on this is staggering.
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06-02-09, 07:37 AM
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I had a shirtless guy on a full-fendered commuter ninja-draft me yesterday between Vienna and Reston. I asked him "what the **** are you doing?" and told him he was being unsafe. He replied "WHAT THE **** ARE YOUUUUUU DOING MOTHER ****ER?!" I told him to **** off, we had an exchange of words, he kinda went bipolar on me, so I turned off the trail and took roads home.
Part of me really wanted to hit him. Part of me wanted to pour HEED on him. But a bigger part of me didn't want to embarrass myself, my club or our sponsors.
Part of me really wanted to hit him. Part of me wanted to pour HEED on him. But a bigger part of me didn't want to embarrass myself, my club or our sponsors.
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06-02-09, 07:38 AM
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It's one of those threads that makes me wish I could hear what people are thinking as I ride by them, and makes me a little sad that people ruin their rides worrying about trivial stuff.
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