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Are you my hemorrhoid?

Old 05-31-09, 06:01 PM
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Are you my hemorrhoid?

Out today doing my solo ride on the W&OD. Half way into it between Leesburg and Purcellville, I passed a dude, looking like doing some tri training with bunch of big bottles, but no TT bar. He was riding slower than me so I passed him, but after I passed him, he started to tail me and follow my wheels. I didn't much care for that so I slowed down several times and tried to let him pass me, but he wouldn't it. He was on my ass like a bad hemorrhoid. After about 3 or 4 miles, I had enough and turned off and rode the country roads for the rest of my ride.

So WTF? This never happened to me before and there were instances when someone wanted to ride along or follow wheels, but they always said something to me and got my ok before they do that. But this dude was just like freaking shadow. What do you do if that happens again? I don't want to change my route because guys like that.

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Old 05-31-09, 06:23 PM
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Um... talk to the guy? If you really don't want him drafting you, say so.

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Old 05-31-09, 06:32 PM
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why not talk to him? Maybe he was thinking the two of you could ride together, alternating pulling. Of course, with your crazy erratic riding he probably won't try to do that again with you, so no worries.
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Old 05-31-09, 06:33 PM
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Had a group do that to me once on a windy day. I just slowed to a crawl like pace. They got the hint
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Old 05-31-09, 06:47 PM
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Either slow way down or drop him. Problem solved.
Uninvited wheelsuckers are annoying but there are worse things.
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Old 05-31-09, 06:50 PM
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What's wrong with wheel sucking? It's not like you're using up the other guy's oxygen. The guy in the back is taking all the risks. What if the guy in front brakes suddenly or farts or something?
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Old 05-31-09, 06:51 PM
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Just turn to him and say it's his turn to be up front and see what he says. You can also drop back then and he'll probably never know!
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Old 05-31-09, 06:51 PM
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annoying but you should have let him know.
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Old 05-31-09, 06:58 PM
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Pull your .45 and take him out. Problem solved.
 
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Same thing happened to me the other day. I'll fart next time if I have one on deck.
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Old 05-31-09, 07:28 PM
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I agree it gets annoying, but depends on if they want to be sociable. It happened to me today, I passed a guy on a climb, not a steep climb so we were moving along pretty good, I said hello and he just ignored me.

Then followed me to the first high point where he surged passed me just at the summit, again without word (I wish I had known we were racing), but slowed immediately on the flat section and I went by him again, and said hello...again, and he ignored me...again.

I intentionally rode off of him and turned around at the high point and saw him again as I was going back down, I waved but he ignored me again.

I like to ride with others I meet along the way, some of the best fun I have, but not like that. Be friendly or get lost.
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if he was a tri guy, just turn. he'll fall over.
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I personally think its nice to hang with another cycler.

Like today, I was on some nice country roads and hadn't seen many other cyclers. I took a quick water break and another cycler goes by me, so I stick with him for the next 10 or so miles. Not drafting mind you, far enough back so that he knows im not trying to stay right on his wheel. Its nice to not be all alone out there on the road.

He knew some nice roads too and led quite a journey.
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Originally Posted by dalava View Post

So WTF? This never happened to me before and there were instances when someone wanted to ride along or follow wheels, but they always said something to me and got my ok before they do that. But this dude was just like freaking shadow. What do you do if that happens again? I don't want to change my route because guys like that.

Post a sign on your back: "Please ask for my permission before you draft me."
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Old 05-31-09, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MR6690 View Post
I personally think its nice to hang with another cycler.

Like today, I was on some nice country roads and hadn't seen many other cyclers. I took a quick water break and another cycler goes by me, so I stick with him for the next 10 or so miles. Not drafting mind you, far enough back so that he knows im not trying to stay right on his wheel. Its nice to not be all alone out there on the road.

He knew some nice roads too and led quite a journey.

+1 Although I'm big into the drafting thing (learned how to do it early on). Even if the other person can't lead...we've all been there.

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Old 05-31-09, 07:58 PM
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you could let a snot-rocket fly...that's what I did, completely unintentional as I honestly did not know he was on my wheel. when he complained, I asked how long he was there, he said he was "wanting to catch the pack by drafting" me. when I explained that "this isn't a race," the pack was too dangerous, that I had no intentions of catching up to them, and I was hangin back on purpose; he then complained that I should have told him. so I then explained to him that riders such as he were the reason many of us no longer ride with the Saturday group. guess that's what I get for giving the Saturday club ride another shot.
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I don't get why anyone would set out for a solo ride for training then start to draft someone... Doesn't that negate the whole reason for riding solo for training?
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Old 05-31-09, 08:37 PM
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I don't get why anyone would set out for a solo ride for training then start to draft someone... Doesn't that negate the whole reason for riding solo for training?
Dear roadie sir: I apologize for wheelsucking without proper introductions. I was just using you for a leadout train so I could outsprint that dude that rides down South Lamar on a MTB wearing nothing but a thong. That dude is FAST, and you don't want to be behind him.
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Haha, I'm glad I haven't seen that guy before!
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I pretty much only draft and get drafted by those I know. A fun thing is hanging back about 20 feet behind someone I don't know and when they figure out I'm behind them they blast off.... Pretty funny really. After about a mile or so they always seem to turn off some side road. I'm guessing to puke?

As mentioned above... either slow way down or blow em off you f'n wheel.
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Old 05-31-09, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Quijibo187 View Post
if he was a tri guy, just turn. he'll fall over.
LOL, gotta remember that one next time i see him
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Old 05-31-09, 09:10 PM
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I usually just slow down and ask the person wants to alternate pulling, especially if they're hanging on for a bit. I don't mind if someone drafts for a little while but any more than that they should return the favor. I've never encountered anyone react negatively when asked to pull if they're drafting and it usually raises the tempo of the ride.
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Out of curiosity and sorry for the newb question, but how close is close enough to be considered a wheel sucker?
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Leslie rides a MTB and is fast?
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I was doing a 70-mile charity ride yesterday, as a "recovery ride" from a 100-mile solo ride the day before. I wasn't interested in drafting or pacelines. I just wanted to do my own pace. I had a guy in front of me get completely pissed off that I wouldn't draft off of him. He kept slowing down, making motions to me to come up, looking back to see if I was moving up etc. I just kept back of him by 10 feet or so. Eventually he just shook his head at me like I'd completely ruined his day...
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