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NOOB Windsor Knight
Hi there. First of all ive been lurking for a while and thought I would jump into my first post for some advise.
I have been riding now for a couple months on my Dads old Bianchi steel bike. Its a 10 speed and a little big, 60cm and I am just over 6'. With my feet on the ground the top tube is pretty high in the groin area almost uncomfortable. The area I live in, SF Bay, has a fair amount of hills and climbs that can be pretty taxing with that bike and gear a ratio. In my search for a new bike I came across the Windsor Knight and had a a few questions/ opinion probes. 1)Would this be a good first bike for someone at my level? 2) At just over 6' what size would the current owners recommend? 3) Can anybody take a guess at what a stock steel 1980's bianchi frame weighs, just so I can reference? Any other issues/ advise about the Windsor Knight or cycling in general would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, CCH |
I actually find the BD website more "straight-up" than most other bike websites, in that you can find most of the component specs very quickly on the main page. Most bike pages require you to do a bit of digging to find what the BB, etc. are.
Although I do agree it's a bit over-marketing to call a bike with 1/4 ultegra components an ultegra-class bike. And on the other coin, in their defense, they sell plenty of aggressively priced true all-ultegra bikes that you can clearly see are all-ultegra on the spec. |
Originally Posted by ccarr
(Post 11778502)
Hi there. First of all ive been lurking for a while and thought I would jump into my first post for some advise.
I have been riding now for a couple months on my Dads old Bianchi steel bike. Its a 10 speed and a little big, 60cm and I am just over 6'. With my feet on the ground the top tube is pretty high in the groin area almost uncomfortable. The area I live in, SF Bay, has a fair amount of hills and climbs that can be pretty taxing with that bike and gear a ratio. In my search for a new bike I came across the Windsor Knight and had a a few questions/ opinion probes. 1)Would this be a good first bike for someone at my level? 2) At just over 6' what size would the current owners recommend? 3) Can anybody take a guess at what a stock steel 1980's bianchi frame weighs, just so I can reference? Any other issues/ advise about the Windsor Knight or cycling in general would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, CCH I'm 6'1/2" and all of my bikes have 60cm frames with no problems. The 60cm refers to the seat tube length from the center of the bottom bracket to either the centerline or the top of the top tube. An older high quality Bianchi steel frame will weigh about two kilos and the fork will weigh about 800 grams. The Knight should be several pounds lighter than the Bianchi, and come in at about 19 lbs. |
Windsor Knight
Sced thanks for the reply and info.
Do you think you could give some other options at that price point? Also I am almost 6' exactly, what would the benefits be of having a 58cm frame vs a 60cm frame? How about the Fens vs the knight? Thanks again this is a great resource, CCH |
Originally Posted by KCWolfPck
(Post 9046722)
Ok, I have a Windsor Fens...paid $695 for it. How much would it have cost to build that same bike? Prices were gathered at BikeParts360.com and JensonUSA.com
Just made a lowball estimate on a couple of the generic items. Parts alone add up to over $1200 if bought separately. I bought them all in an assembled bike for less that $700. What's your theory on that? |
Originally Posted by ccarr
(Post 11787745)
Sced thanks for the reply and info.
Do you think you could give some other options at that price point? Also I am almost 6' exactly, what would the benefits be of having a 58cm frame vs a 60cm frame? How about the Fens vs the knight? Thanks again this is a great resource, CCH you can't use someone elses measurement to fit your bike. i'm 5'11 and 3/4. basically 6 feet and ride a 56. |
Originally Posted by ccarr
(Post 11787745)
Sced thanks for the reply and info.
Do you think you could give some other options at that price point? Also I am almost 6' exactly, what would the benefits be of having a 58cm frame vs a 60cm frame? How about the Fens vs the knight? Thanks again this is a great resource, CCH To some extent frame size these days seems to be as much a matter of fashion as it is a practical matter. Biggish people ride smaller frames than people their size used to, but of course they jack the seat post up high and use long stems. The same with seat-to-bar drop. FWIW, here's a picture of my Fens. It's a 60cm and as you can see I have the post up high and I also replaced the 110mm stem with one of 130mm. My legs and torso aren't long for my 6'1/2" height but I do have long arms. I think that the Knight uses the same frame as the Fens. http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/z...sorFens-50.jpg |
Originally Posted by Rustyoldbikes
(Post 9041960)
"Full Ultegra" would mean Ultegra components were used for the shifters, the brake calipers, the front and rear gear mechs, the headset, the hubs, the crank, and the bottom bracket. If a bike uses cheaper generic parts for the headset, the brake calipers, the hubs, the bottom bracket, and the crank, it is NOT a "full Ultegra" bike.
Two bike frames can be built on the same assembly line and LOOK identical, but be very different in quality...the same factory builds frames it sells to "Brand A" for $100 each and sells a SIMILAR LOOKING low-grade frame to "Brand W" for $20...the frames look alike...but they are NOT the same quality. Bikes are like anything else...you get precisely what you pay for. If you pay $600 for a bike, you will get a $600 bike. But, if someone tells you they are selling you a bike worth $1,000 for just $600, they assume you are stupid...don't get played. |
Originally Posted by sced
(Post 11790643)
If you can get the Knight for $550 in like-new condition, I'd go for it. The 60cm is likely to be just fine for you. The worst thing I can imagine is that you have to change out the stem.
To some extent frame size these days seems to be as much a matter of fashion as it is a practical matter. Biggish people ride smaller frames than people their size used to, but of course they jack the seat post up high and use long stems. The same with seat-to-bar drop. FWIW, here's a picture of my Fens. It's a 60cm and as you can see I have the post up high and I also replaced the 110mm stem with one of 130mm. My legs and torso aren't long for my 6'1/2" height but I do have long arms. I think that the Knight uses the same frame as the Fens. http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/z...sorFens-50.jpg |
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