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Road Cycling It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle. -- Ernest Hemingway

BUMPS...Whiteface/Okemo/Ascutney/Equinox/Washington/Burke/Greylock...

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BUMPS...Whiteface/Okemo/Ascutney/Equinox/Washington/Burke/Greylock...

Preface…

I am going to consolidate my experiences of the upcoming BUMPS series in this one thread. I hope my hill climbing experience will help others in the future...

I did not post this in the Racing forum because I do not consider myself a road bike racer. I have been riding and racing on and off since the 1980’s but I never held a license. I watch and understand the tactics of bike racing but that no more makes me a bike racer than following, understanding and playing catch makes me an American football player. ...

This will be my third year doing the hill climbs. It started when I was bragging to a friend about the 5000 + miles I rode and he bragging about climbing Mt. Washington with little training...

He challenged me to the hill climbs, I challenged him to train....

He still does little training. I am still hill climbing...

BUMPS is a new hill climbing series linking all the hill climb races in the Northeast United States. These hill climbs are basically uphill time trials. You against the clock...

The climbs are steep. Most riders do not realize how steep and usually under gear. The strongest riders gear at least 1:1...

I am not one of the strongest riders....

I am a middle aged, well marbled hill climber...

Here are the climbs (courtesy Northeast Cycling.com)

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The FrankenClimbingBike...

For the hill climb races I ride a 2006 Scott CR1 Pro frame (purchased from a fellow BFer). There are quite a few spacers because riding more upright aids in power and breathing. The bike weighs 16.25 lbs. The components are as follows:

Dura-Ace triple left shifter/Ultegra right shifter (9 speed)...

FSA compact carbon bars with Ritchie 4-axis stem...

Ultegra SL brakes...

IRD Alpina front derailleur...

Dura-Ace cartridge BB/Ultegra cranks/TA chainrings 48/38/26...

XTR rear derailleur with an 11/32-34 cassette...

Thomson Masterpiece seatpost with a Fizik Airone saddle...

Zipp 202 wheelset with a PowerTap rear hub...





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TABLE OF CONTENTS

CHAPTER I: WHITEFACE MOUNTAIN UPHILL BIKE RACE - Post #45

CHAPTER II: OKEMO BIKE RACE - Post #61

CHAPTER III: NEWTON"S REVENGE: A BIKE RACE UP THE MT. WASHINGTON AUTO ROAD - Post #71

Chapter IV: MT. ASCUTNEY HILL CLIMB - Post #86

Chapter V: GEAR UP FOR LYME - MT. EQUINOX HILL CLIMB - Post #95

Chapter VI: MT. WASHINGTON AUTO ROAD BICYCLE HILL CLIMB - Post #97

Chapter VII: BURKE MOUNTAIN BIKE RACE - Post #107




First up will be Whiteface Mountain Uphill Bike Race this Saturday June 20....

At 7.8 miles it is one of the longest of the hill climbs but the also not the steepest at 8.3% avg. grade....

I have been training quite hard this season and hope for a good result...

More to follow...
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Damn, I have to travel up north and try some of these climbs!
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sweet thread. i am sure you have explained this or its common hill climber bike set up knowledge, but why the XTR rear derailleur? later.
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As the FrakenClimbingBike is also used for long epic rides I keep the triple chainring intact...

The large chain wrap needed for the 48/38/26 triple and 11/34 cassette necessitates the longer cage length...

Think of it as a road bike with mountain bike gearing...
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The handlebar still actually seems fairly low to me for only hill climbing.

Although on some of those climbs above treeline I suppose the wind can be pretty nasty. I've summitted Washington (on foot and/or skis) at least once in every month of the year, and I can count on less then one hand the number of low wind days on the summit.

Still I think I'd put on something like a 107 degree stem on my current bike if I took it hill climbing only.
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I know everyone has their thing, but that just sounds like pure suffering...

What are the typical times, for say the Whiteface ride?
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Gotta love the pain..

Embrace it...

Make it your friend...

And pass it around...



Last year I finished top 5 in my age group and top 20 overall out of 250 riders...

I hope to shave 2 minutes off my time this year...

A time under 1 hour will get you into the top 60 overall...


The competition this year is much more intense due the BUMP series...

I do not think I will place as well even if my time improves...
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Originally Posted by Hammertoe View Post
Gotta love the pain..

Embrace it...

Make it your friend...

And pass it around...



Last year I finished top 5 in my age group and top 20 overall out of 250 riders...

I hope to shave 2 minutes off my time this year...

A time under 1 hour will get you into the top 60 overall...


The competition this year is much more intense due the BUMP series...

I do not think I will place as well even if my time improves...




soon.....very soon.

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Originally Posted by Hammertoe View Post
Here are the climbs (courtesy Northeast Cycling.com)

Where is the PNW version of that chart??

Good luck in the races, those look like some nice tough climbs.

How often, or on what grades, do you use the 26 up front?
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How often, or on what grades, do you use the 26 up front?
I use the 26 for just about entire climb...

I keep a high cadence when climbing...

My average cadence for the races last year was 90...



Some of the climbs have a few false flats and you shift to the 38 middle ring...

It is amazing when climbing a 12% grade, a 6% grade feels like a false flat...
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Looking forward to your updates on the BUMP series.
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Best of luck with Whiteface this weekend.

Decided against making the trip up for the race, but thinking about taking a couple days off later in the Summer and heading back up for a couple more morning/evening Friday & Saturday ascents (this time using my compact crank, see if I can shave off more time).
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Looking forward to your updates on the BUMP series.
+1.

hope the rain holds off for your race this weekend.
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Originally Posted by Hammertoe View Post
I did not post this in the Racing forum because I do not consider myself a road bike racer. I have been riding and racing on and off since the 1980s but I never held a license. I watch and understand the tactics of bike racing but that no more makes me a bike racer than following, understanding and playing catch makes me an American football player. ...
There's a point here that merits reiterating.

For those out there who don't have a desire to race, but still want some sort of competitive element that you wouldn't find in charity rides, etc, Hill Climbs are a pretty good option (IF you're lucky enough to live near some).

I love ascending climbs, and enjoyed the few Hill Climb Races I've done...right now I'm preferring my crit races, but there will no doubt come a time for me when I get fed up with it and use Hill Climbs as my fix for a competitive need.
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go go go!
there's some talk of getting a group to do the 6 gaps... and i think there is an organized brevet that is doing mr. lamb this year.

looks like fun.
i'd ditch that triple though and go super compact double - unless you get to blast down these...
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go go go!
there's some talk of getting a group to do the 6 gaps
I have never done 6 gaps...

It is on my list....Someday...

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i'd ditch that triple though and go super compact double

Hmmm...

If it saves weight...

Where can I find out more about the super compact...
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I have never done 6 gaps...

It is on my list....Someday...




Hmmm...

If it saves weight...

Where can I find out more about the super compact...
i'm running a ta carmina in 94 bcd - but it won't get you to a 26 inner, only a 30 or maybe a 29. i'm running a 30/46 for brevets with a 13/29 in the rear. when i was strong and fit and 20 pounds lighter i'd have laughed at this, thinking i'd only need a 34/27. but even when i was strong and fit i had to walk the top 1/4 mile of lincoln gap in 34/27 - couldn't keep the front wheel down and i blew up trying to keep the bike moving. if you are running a mtb cassette you could run 30/34. i'm using campy gear in the back - on my agenda is to try a 10spd wide range from IRD. might have to switch rear der. though.

they also make a triple version, which will get you a 24 on the inside.
could you just ditch the big ring?



or you can try out this crazy thing from sram, essentially a mtb double. but be ready to bring the bank.
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Well, one day till the race...

My weight is down, which should help.

Under 130 LBS this morning this is 4 - 5 pounds less than last year...

But I have not been sleeping well the last 3 nights so I am tired. I hope to sleep well tonight...



BIG NEWS


I just fell ass backward into a pair of race wheels. The deal was too good to pass up...

My dream wheels...

I am now an owner of a Zipp 202 wheelset, Zipp front hub and PowerTap rear hub (pics soon)...

Came with Zipp skewers and a Dura-Ace 11/23 cassette (which I will not be using for the races)..

Shaved some weight off the bike...

I put them on last night and changed the brake pads to Swiss Stop - yellow...

Now I need to figure out this tubular thing. I need a spare and some Vittoria Pit Stop just in case...

Where is DDYTDY when I need him...



I know I broke the cardinal sin of racing and changed my equipment prior to the race but later tonight I will take the bike out for a spin, in the rain...



Damn, Zipp 202 with a PT...

Never did I think...
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if you are planning on the six gap, you should try the Highlander. It's probably closer to you anyway.
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I have heard of the Highlander but it is about 5:30 from me...

Too far, with the kids back in school...

By September, I will be full of guilt about all the time I have taken riding my bike and it will be time to refocus on the family...
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if you are planning on the six gap, you should try the Highlander. It's probably closer to you anyway.
I think the six gap ride to which they were referring earlier in the thread was the one in VT that the sadist at northeastcycling.com put together, not the one in Georgia...

http://www.northeastcycling.com/Climbing_Loops.html
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http://www.northeastcycling.com/six_gaps.html
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Yes, Doug and I talked about the Vermont six gaps last year, but it really is of "dubious training value"...

My coach put the nix on it, two years running...
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